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Re: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat

From: Robert Xu <robxu9@...>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:12:20 -0400
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:03 AM,
<trinity-users-help@...> wrote:
> Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
> trinity-users@... mailing list.

[snip]

> --8701F456024E.1348439718/vali.starlink.edu
> Content-Description: Delivery report
> Content-Type: message/delivery-status
>
> Reporting-MTA: dns; vali.starlink.edu
> X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 8701F456024E
> X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3629-robxu9=gmail.com@...
> Arrival-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:35:17 -0500 (CDT)
>
> Final-Recipient: rfc822; robxu9@...
> Original-Recipient: rfc822;robxu9@...
> Action: failed
> Status: 5.7.1
> Remote-MTA: dns; gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com
> Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from
>     this domain. k2si7073925igo.55
>

[snip]

> Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat
>
> What is beginning to happen around the net -- with 'responsible' ISPs --
> is the enforcement of Forward-confirmed reverse DNS (FCrDNS)
>
>         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward-confirmed_reverse_DNS
>  -and-
>
> Sender Policy Framework (SPF)
>
>         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Policy_Framework
>
> In a nutshell, lists email distribution is affected because the emails
> are re-sent by the list server as From: The_Originator@....
> Which is true -- it did originate "From:" me, or "From:" you.
> But, it appears to be a forgery to incoming mailservers that do this
> checking, because those emails CANNOT be "From:" that user from THAT MTA.
>
> For example, this email - From: Jonesy <trinity@...>  cannot
> be sent from the mail servers at vali.starlink.edu  ---  at least not
> with FCrDNS checking.
>
> FCrDNS cuts down on A LOT of spam.  My SysAdmin says 90% of incoming
> email is pure crap spam -- with forged "From:"s out of cracked botnet
> machines.  FCrDNS cuts down on ALMOST ALL of that.
> Think of the savings...
>
> But, I've had to remove my domain from that checking by my ISP because
> I am on so many lists, email reflectors, what-ever-you-call-them.
> Eventually lists will have to evolve to some different scheme.

Huh? So you are intentionally having emails bounce?

>
> Too much information?
> Jonesy
>

brb; head hurts ;P

-- 
later daze. :: Robert Xu :: protocol.by/rxu