Message: previous - next
Month: October 2012

Re: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat

From: Lisi <lisi.reisz@...>
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 21:43:47 +0100

On Sunday 21 October 2012 21:23:21 Timothy Pearson wrote:
> > On Sunday 21 October 2012 19:10:40 oldlaptop wrote:
> >> Timothy Pearson wrote:
> >> > This *should* be fixed as of a week or two ago; can you confirm?
> >> > Thanks! Tim
> >>
> >> I have just gotten two bounce warnings, both from trinity-users:
> >
> > +½ - I got one.
> >
> > Lisi
> I suggest you use an Email provider other than AOL for your mailing list
> subscriptions; the error code that AOL blocked your messages with is not
> caused by the TDE mail server and is detailed at this link:

I don't use AOL, and although I receive through Gmail, I send through my ISP, 
Zen, which is definitely reputable.
Is nothing to do with me, so far as I know.

Shall I just go back to ignoring them?

Or should I change to a Zen address for this list?

Here is the text:
Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
trinity-users@... mailing list.

I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
at trinity-users-owner@....

Messages to you from the trinity-users mailing list seem to
have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce
message I received.

If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces,
I will remove your address from the trinity-users mailing list,
without further notice.

Copies of these messages may be in the archive.

To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request),
send an empty message to:

To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so messages,
send an empty message to:

Here are the message numbers:


--- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.

Return-Path: <MAILER-DAEMON@...>
Received: (qmail 14461 invoked by uid 64014); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500
Received: by (Postfix)
        id 357B04560241; Fri,  5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 (CDT)
Date: Fri,  5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: MAILER-DAEMON@... (Mail Delivery System)
Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
Auto-Submitted: auto-replied
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-Id: <20121006012955.357B04560241@...>

This is a MIME-encapsulated message.

Content-Description: Notification
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

This is the mail system at host

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

                   The mail system

<lisi.reisz@...>: host[] said:
    550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain.
    u15si3064128igi.43 (in reply to end of DATA command)

Content-Description: Delivery report
Content-Type: message/delivery-status

Reporting-MTA: dns;
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: B5CA5456023F
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822;
Arrival-Date: Fri,  5 Oct 2012 20:29:53 -0500 (CDT)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; lisi.reisz@...
Original-Recipient: rfc822;lisi.reisz@...
Action: failed
Status: 5.7.1
Remote-MTA: dns;
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from
    this domain. u15si3064128igi.43

Content-Description: Undelivered Message
Content-Type: message/rfc822
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [])
        by (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CA5456023F
        for <lisi.reisz@...>; Fri,  5 Oct 2012 20:29:53 -0500 (CDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at
Received: from ([])
        by localhost ( []) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
        with ESMTP id 9ypyMJX1Z3DV for <lisi.reisz@...>;
        Fri,  5 Oct 2012 20:29:52 -0500 (CDT)
Received: from ( [])
        by (Postfix) with SMTP id BCFF445602C0
        for <lisi.reisz@...>; Fri,  5 Oct 2012 20:29:29 -0500 (CDT)
Received: (qmail 13432 invoked by uid 1002); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:23 -0500
Mailing-List: contact trinity-users-help@...; run by 
Precedence: bulk
X-No-Archive: yes
List-Post: <mailto:trinity-users@...>
List-Help: <mailto:trinity-users-help@...>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:trinity-users-subscribe@...>
Reply-To: trinity-users@...
Delivered-To: mailing list trinity-users@...
Received: (qmail 13426 invoked by uid 64014); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:23 -0500
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at
X-Virus-Status: Clean
X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.5 at
X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 3FAD7222457
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple;; s=default;
        t=1349486957; bh=L3wwduUUUtuD+pbXe6ScPiRJe5nDZ72EeDXrpK8SPdo=;
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 19:29:16 -0600 (MDT)
From: Jonesy <trinity@...>
To: trinity-users@...
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.02.1210051919160.88657@...>
User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (BSF 1266 2009-07-14)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat

On Fri, 5 Oct 2012, Robert Xu wrote:

>Huh? So you are intentionally having emails bounce?

Huh?  No.

The receiving MTA at my ISP rejected an email from the list with:

  Reporting-MTA: dns;
  X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 0CC704560250
  X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822;
  Arrival-Date: Thu,  6 Sep 2012 15:04:39 -0500 (CDT)

  Final-Recipient: rfc822; trinity@...
  Original-Recipient: rfc822;trinity@...
  Action: failed
  Status: 5.7.1
  Remote-MTA: dns;
  Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 sender domain does not exist

My (email) ISP said "sender domain does not exist".

Here's one that Robert Xu inquired of me about (because it was from the
list -- my list message being sent on to him.)

  Reporting-MTA: dns;
  X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 8701F456024E
  X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822;
  Arrival-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:35:17 -0500 (CDT)

  Final-Recipient: rfc822; robxu9@...
  Original-Recipient: rfc822;robxu9@...
  Action: failed
  Status: 5.7.1
  Remote-MTA: dns;
  Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted
    from this domain. k2si7073925igo.55

Xu's email provider (Gmail) reported "Unauthenticated email is not
accepted from this domain."

Lisi also reported a "warning from trinity-users@..."
on September 22, but she did not inlude the report body showing the
reason for the rejection.  She showed the headers from the email
notifying her of the rejection -- not the rejection report.
(At least that's what I see at   )

I get one rejection notification every 10 days or so.  So far the
"warning from trinity-users@..." makes it to
me and, so, ezmlm does not think me to be a 'hard bounce' (a
no-longer-valid email addy.)

One thing:  I've been on the list since, maybe, back in April (or
earlier), and I only think I've seen this 'problem' in the last 2
months or so.


To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@...
For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@...
Read list messages on the web archive:
Please remember not to top-post: