On Sunday 21 October 2012 21:23:21 Timothy Pearson wrote: > > On Sunday 21 October 2012 19:10:40 oldlaptop wrote: > >> Timothy Pearson wrote: > >> > This *should* be fixed as of a week or two ago; can you confirm? > >> > Thanks! Tim > >> > >> I have just gotten two bounce warnings, both from trinity-users: > > > > +½ - I got one. > > > > Lisi > > I suggest you use an Email provider other than AOL for your mailing list > subscriptions; the error code that AOL blocked your messages with is not > caused by the TDE mail server and is detailed at this link: > http://postmaster.aol.com/Postmaster.Errors.php#554conb1 I don't use AOL, and although I receive through Gmail, I send through my ISP, Zen, which is definitely reputable. vali.starlink.edu Is nothing to do with me, so far as I know. Shall I just go back to ignoring them? Or should I change to a Zen address for this list? Lisi Here is the text: ---------------------------------------------------- Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the trinity-users@... mailing list. I'm working for my owner, who can be reached at trinity-users-owner@.... Messages to you from the trinity-users mailing list seem to have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce message I received. If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces, I will remove your address from the trinity-users mailing list, without further notice. Copies of these messages may be in the archive. To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request), send an empty message to: <trinity-users-get.123_145@...> To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so messages, send an empty message to: <trinity-users-index@...> Here are the message numbers: 3739 3741 3746 --- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received. Return-Path: <MAILER-DAEMON@...> Received: (qmail 14461 invoked by uid 64014); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 Received: by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) id 357B04560241; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 (CDT) From: MAILER-DAEMON@... (Mail Delivery System) Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender To: trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com@... Auto-Submitted: auto-replied MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20121006012955.357B04560241@...> This is a MIME-encapsulated message. --B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net Content-Description: Notification Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is the mail system at host mail.pearsoncomputing.net. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system <lisi.reisz@...>: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.142.27] said: 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain. u15si3064128igi.43 (in reply to end of DATA command) --B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net Content-Description: Delivery report Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.pearsoncomputing.net X-Postfix-Queue-ID: B5CA5456023F X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com@... Arrival-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:53 -0500 (CDT) Final-Recipient: rfc822; lisi.reisz@... Original-Recipient: rfc822;lisi.reisz@... Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain. u15si3064128igi.43 --B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net Content-Description: Undelivered Message Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: <trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com@...> Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CA5456023F for <lisi.reisz@...>; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:53 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pearsoncomputing.net Received: from mail.pearsoncomputing.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vali.starlink.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9ypyMJX1Z3DV for <lisi.reisz@...>; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from vali.starlink.edu (vali.starlink.edu [192.168.1.21]) by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BCFF445602C0 for <lisi.reisz@...>; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:29:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 13432 invoked by uid 1002); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:23 -0500 Mailing-List: contact trinity-users-help@...; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Post: <mailto:trinity-users@...> List-Help: <mailto:trinity-users-help@...> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:trinity-users-unsubscribe@...> List-Subscribe: <mailto:trinity-users-subscribe@...> Reply-To: trinity-users@... Delivered-To: mailing list trinity-users@... Received: (qmail 13426 invoked by uid 64014); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:23 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pearsoncomputing.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.5 at mx4.operationenterprise.com X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 mx4.operationenterprise.com 3FAD7222457 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=jonz.net; s=default; t=1349486957; bh=L3wwduUUUtuD+pbXe6ScPiRJe5nDZ72EeDXrpK8SPdo=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=TW4C/lBLY8dzvlbDNJtkUw6UpsmI9RCMWBktKzAzCPDVWgLrN1C6GvjzLJKBYmk0D C97sHXp3xkdbYpMeuk08PbXQzqcZlLTeN8RMqN9SPE1q8wm0zJsTgBPL3rSKqw4D7r pUYgoKDPp/pzY54pcsooWgUoVGpCB56CbnqaSaMs= Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 19:29:16 -0600 (MDT) From: Jonesy <trinity@...> To: trinity-users@... In-Reply-To: <CA+K=-Ff52mng_7h8gPVL89LfQXeNNqYiZ4JEQokM_7LqEk3V0w@...> Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.02.1210051919160.88657@...> References: <CA+K=-Ff52mng_7h8gPVL89LfQXeNNqYiZ4JEQokM_7LqEk3V0w@...> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (BSF 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Unsubscribe threat On Fri, 5 Oct 2012, Robert Xu wrote: >Huh? So you are intentionally having emails bounce? Huh? No. The receiving MTA at my ISP rejected an email from the list with: Reporting-MTA: dns; vali.starlink.edu X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 0CC704560250 X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3521-trinity=jonz.net@... Arrival-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:04:39 -0500 (CDT) Final-Recipient: rfc822; trinity@... Original-Recipient: rfc822;trinity@... Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; mx4.operationenterprise.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 sender domain does not exist My (email) ISP said "sender domain does not exist". Here's one that Robert Xu inquired of me about (because it was from the list -- my list message being sent on to him.) Reporting-MTA: dns; vali.starlink.edu X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 8701F456024E X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; trinity-users-return-3629-robxu9=gmail.com@... Arrival-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:35:17 -0500 (CDT) Final-Recipient: rfc822; robxu9@... Original-Recipient: rfc822;robxu9@... Action: failed Status: 5.7.1 Remote-MTA: dns; gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain. k2si7073925igo.55 Xu's email provider (Gmail) reported "Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain." Lisi also reported a "warning from trinity-users@..." on September 22, but she did not inlude the report body showing the reason for the rejection. She showed the headers from the email notifying her of the rejection -- not the rejection report. (At least that's what I see at http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::3615 ) I get one rejection notification every 10 days or so. So far the "warning from trinity-users@..." makes it to me and, so, ezmlm does not think me to be a 'hard bounce' (a no-longer-valid email addy.) One thing: I've been on the list since, maybe, back in April (or earlier), and I only think I've seen this 'problem' in the last 2 months or so. Jonesy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@... Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting --B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net--