> On Monday 22 October 2012 02:27:03 Timothy Pearson wrote:
>> > On Sunday 21 October 2012 21:23:21 Timothy Pearson wrote:
>> >> > On Sunday 21 October 2012 19:10:40 oldlaptop wrote:
>> >> >> Timothy Pearson wrote:
>> >> >> > This *should* be fixed as of a week or two ago; can you confirm?
>> >> >> > Thanks! Tim
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have just gotten two bounce warnings, both from trinity-users:
>> >> >
>> >> > +½ - I got one.
>> >> >
>> >> > Lisi
>> >>
>> >> I suggest you use an Email provider other than AOL for your mailing
>> list
>> >> subscriptions; the error code that AOL blocked your messages with is
>> not
>> >> caused by the TDE mail server and is detailed at this link:
>> >> http://postmaster.aol.com/Postmaster.Errors.php#554conb1
>> >
>> > I don't use AOL, and although I receive through Gmail, I send through
>> my
>> > ISP,
>> > Zen, which is definitely reputable.
>> >
>> > vali.starlink.edu
>> > Is nothing to do with me, so far as I know.
>> >
>> > Shall I just go back to ignoring them?
>> >
>> > Or should I change to a Zen address for this list?
>> > Lisi
>>
>> I pulled the AOL address from within the messages forwarded to the list,
>> so apparently that particular AOL message must have from someone else
>> who
>> has had trouble in the past.  For clarity, can you please forward to me
>> the last bounce message you have received in its entirety so that I can
>> investigate the issue?
>
> Here is the text:
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
> trinity-users@... mailing list.
>
> I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
> at trinity-users-owner@....
>
>
> Messages to you from the trinity-users mailing list seem to
> have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce
> message I received.
>
> If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe
> bounces,
> I will remove your address from the trinity-users mailing list,
> without further notice.
>
> Copies of these messages may be in the archive.
>
> To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request),
> send an empty message to:
>    <trinity-users-get.123_145@...>
>
> To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so messages,
> send an empty message to:
>    <trinity-users-index@...>
>
> Here are the message numbers:
>
>    3739
>    3741
>    3746
>
> --- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
>
> Return-Path: <MAILER-DAEMON@...>
> Received: (qmail 14461 invoked by uid 64014); 5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500
> Received: by mail.pearsoncomputing.net (Postfix)
>         id 357B04560241; Fri,  5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 (CDT)
> Date: Fri,  5 Oct 2012 20:29:55 -0500 (CDT)
> From: MAILER-DAEMON@... (Mail Delivery System)
> Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
> To:
> trinity-users-return-3739-lisi.reisz=gmail.com@...
> Auto-Submitted: auto-replied
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
>         boundary="B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Message-Id: <20121006012955.357B04560241@...>
>
> This is a MIME-encapsulated message.
>
> --B5CA5456023F.1349486995/mail.pearsoncomputing.net
> Content-Description: Notification
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> This is the mail system at host mail.pearsoncomputing.net.
>
> I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
> be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
>
> For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
>
> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
> delete your own text from the attached returned message.
>
>                    The mail system
>
> <lisi.reisz@...>: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.142.27]
> said:
>     550 5.7.1 Unauthenticated email is not accepted from this domain.
>     u15si3064128igi.43 (in reply to end of DATA command)
<snip>

From what I can see, this means that Google temporarily blocked all
messages from the TDE server, presumably for spam concerns.  This seems to
happen from time to time with other mailing lists as well, and all I can
really suggest is to use a provider that is more list-friendly.

Tim