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Re: [trinity-users] OpenSUSE 12.2 Step by Step Installation

From: Felix Miata <mrmazda@...>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:04:06 -0500
On 2012-11-27 20:46 (GMT-0500) Patrick Serru composed:

>> It's just that developers don't have *your* particular hardware
>> combination to test on…

> Is 1280x1024 pixels screen such an exceptionnel format?

It's probably the most common native resolution currently. But, was the 
Scaleoview T17-2 you're looking at perfect when it left the factory? Is it 
still perfect?

>> …, and when the required hardware data is missing or broken, as apparently
>> must be the case for your display's EDID,…

> My display (Fujisu-Siemens FUS T17-2) works well, and its Extended display
> identification data (EDID) too, but I did not espacialy check that last
> point. And some recent distributions did configure X correctly for its use.

But will they today? That something worked is not proof that it works.

>        Faced with the difficulties of installing the most recent
> distributions, I got to thinking that the tests were done on virtual
> machines, and thus, the developers were not seeing the problems. The ATI
> driver? But I am using this machine, this graphic card and this screen with
> this ancient OSS 11.1!

IIRC, automatic X configuration was rather young at the time of, and likely 
not implemented in, openSUSE 11.1. The 11.1 I just booted even has a 
/etc/X11/XF86Config as a soft link from xorg.conf! The in place backup of its 
original xorg.conf is timestamped April 2007. What happens when you restart X 
in 11.1 after removing xorg.conf?

When I try X in 11.1 with xorg.conf removed, Xorg.0.log ends with fatal 
server error \ cannot run in framebuffer mode, even after having correctly 
identified the gfxchip as Radeon. After restoring xorg.conf, X starts in 
1600x1200 according to specification in the xorg.conf file.

Most modern distros have automagic X configuration that works in most cases, 
but not all. Until one tries manual configuration or other hardware, there's 
no practical way to be sure a particular failure is not some previously 
unobserved hardware fault. I have found in *every* case tried personally, 
absent known driver or X bugs applicable to the hardware used, that basic 
automagic X configuration failure can be worked around through manual 
configuration. Trying a less than 1Kbyte 
http://fm.no-ip.com/Share/xorg.conf-minimal-EDID-workaround as a shortcut to 
manual configuration from scratch is a pretty simple thing to try. It doesn't 
take much in most cases to work around apparent EDID-related automagic failure.
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