On 2012-11-28 22:28 (GMT+0100) François ANDRIOT composed: > Felix Miata composed: >> I removed all remaining *kde*3* except the following: >> kde-susetranslations-12.1-14.1.1.noarch >> kde3-gtk-qt-engine-0.8svn20071009-58.2.x86_64 >> kdeartwork3-3.5.10-92.2.x86_64 >> kdebase3-SuSE-branding-openSUSE-11.3-72.1.x86_64 >> and rebooted into TDE greeter. It would have been nice if it had >> offered to import settings from ~/.kde, but it seems to be working OK. > OK this is what I thought. KDE3 conflicts with TDE. > Until we find a trick, we cannot use both on the same computer. I'm having a hard time imagining a need for both, as long as equivalent packages (that I use ;-) ) remain available on TDE for all available on KDE3. > You can remove "kdeartwork3" and install "trinity-tdeartwork". Yikes! Adding this one pulled in 11 others. > You can remove "kde3-gtk-qt-engine" and install "trinity-qt-engine". "No provider of 'trinity-qt-engine' found (but trinity-gtk-qt-engine is now installed). > About the 2 other packages, I don't know if they are specific to Suse, > specific to KDE3, or both. > But they are not needed (and not even used) by Trinity, so they are > useless to you. You'd better remove them to avoid other strange > side-effects. They're gone now. >> Keyboard retains the same inane 660msec default delay as KDE always >> has. cf. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279201 > Nice find. It could be a Trinity enhancement, you should fill a bug > report for it. http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/bugzilla/bugzilla/bugzilla/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1349 > I'm glad it finally works for you :-) Not completely yet. 1-Init 3 from runlevel 5 fails to stop kdm, same as with KDE3 in 12.2. rcxdm stop and /etc/init.d/xdm stop don't stop it either. 2-startx instead of TDE starts icewm. Comments in /etc/sysconfig/windowmanager fail to say to make TDE the DEFAULT_WM it needs to be set to tde. 3-cnf starttde produces nothing. cnf startkde produces no hits in /opt/trinity/* or from TDE repo. > I hope you will enjoy Trinity. I can't imagine it not. KDE3 is weak on maintenance resources. KDE4 is hopeless: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158556 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283366 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=297217 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=297219 This exercise was on my backup box to the system I run 24/7, trying to figure out whether an upgrade from 11.4 to 12.2 is doable. The bonus upgrade to TDE I hope will end the nonsense that updated KDE3 packages are inexplicably added to the mirrors practically every day. In the meantime, I have at least a half dozen 12.2 systems, at least half of which have KDE3 instead of KDE4. Over time I'll probably convert at least 3 to TDE, but the next step will be a fresh minimal X with TDE on a box whose HD died week before last, which is waiting for me to put in the new one UPS brought me today. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/