On 1/22/11, Robert Xu <robxu9@...> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 22:35, John A. Sullivan III > <jsullivan@...> wrote: >> I don't like lots of submenus either but there are so many options >> available in Linux that the huge menus which can popup are more >> cumbersome and confusing that the submenus. I think we need to find a >> reasonable balance - John >> >> > > The way I see it, we should try to create a submenu that has a broad > meaning but doesn't completely include all the apps. > For example, we could say Office > Management for finance and other > such applications such as to-do lists > And also Office > Processors for Word/Spreadsheet/Presentation Processors... > > I forgot to mention - no more than one submenu. > > -- > later, Robert Xu > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: > trinity-users-help@... > Read list messsages on the Web archive: > http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ > Please remember not to top-post: > http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting > > All of this is very useful so thanks for that. Ru_X, dueling pistols at dawn. With regard to multiple submenus. Over 4 years of testing has shown me people aren't put off my them, so long as they are logically ordered and well labeled. What does put them off, is being bombarded by dozens, even hundreds of apps under one or two submenus (choice, both the beauty and curse of FOSS). With multiple, logically labeled, submenus they can just follow along. They key is, logical progression, informative labeling, and this is also the rub. A problem I've been dealing with for a while, I'm close but I need help. So I'm thankful for this opportunity. Regarding terminology, its important to avoid pop computing terms such as folders, windows apps, because it fails to educate the user. The use of improper terms by MS was an attempt (in my opinion and the opinions of many) to create a dependency on windows. Prove it to yourself, find a windows user and ask them to create a folder on their desktop. When they're finished, ask them to create a directory. 90% of the time they will draw blank. FOSS is said to be about freedom of knowledge, how can that knowledge be passed on if everything is being dumbed down. Dumbing down is the worst thing anyone can do. I give you the NJ Educational system. 10 years ago it began dumbing everything down to "make it easier for kids to get an education" now NJ is a state of illiterates. Young adults entering college unable to read to any useful degree. NJ has learned a hard lesson and as a result as been forced to take such actions as eliminating the grade D. Forcing parents, students and teachers to work harder. Its been working. There is a difference between making something accessible and useless. I have faith in people's ability to adapt and learn. I've seen it in action and I'm willing to bet on it by building something better. /action: Kate hops off her soapbox pulpit. Thanks (and I do mean that) to all Kate