said Timothy Pearson:

| My personal opinion is that the new menu structure, regardless of
| how many other desktops are using it, goes against the fundamental
| HCI goals of the Trinity project by displaying very little
| information at any given time, displaying that information in a
| nondeterministic manner, and requiring multiple mouse interaction
| events to launch a program.  Therefore, I recommend against this
| suggestion, and politely suggest those wishing to use a semantic
| desktop look into using KDE and Gnome Shell.

i'll see you and raise you fifty (having no real dog in this fight, 
because i plop down trinity atop (k)ubuntu). i used to keep a gnome 
install, so in case i blew up my kde-3.x, i could hop over and get 
online and replace whatever i'd been too clever about. but with the 
recent upgrade, to 12.04 lts, when i broke it and opened grome i 
could not figure out how to do anything at all.

that having been said, it shall be a happy day for me when some kind 
of fix of the current kmail certificate-forever-not-taking bug is put 
into a nice binary file, because it is driving me entirely insane. a 
short trip, admittedly, but one i'd just as soon not take . . .

back on point, and recognizing that the nature of free and open 
software is that anyone can do what he or she wants, i do not see 
much room for improvement in the kmenu system. there is a tendency 
for developers to do things because they can -- witness some of the 
changes in the new libreoffice -- rather than because it makes much 
sense or makes users happier or serves any other real or imagined 
useful purpose.
-- 
dep

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