On Monday 15 April 2013, Lisi Reisz wrote: > Hi, Calvin, > Thanks for your reply. > > On Sunday 14 April 2013 18:03:52 Calvin Morrison wrote: > > Kickoff comes with all kicker installs you just need to enable it. > > I couldn't even find Kicker by what I would regard as usual means: launcher > (for preference) or menu (if I have to). I found it via locate and ran it > from the command line with the full path. It immediately removed my panel, > then grabbed my desktop and started rolling it off the top of the screen, > leaving me with an ever increasing area of black. I could find no way of > arresting the disappearance, so I opened up a terminal, praying that at > least alt-ctrl-Fx would work. It did. > > I logged in, entered init 6, crossed my fingers, said my prayers and barely > dared to look. On the whole I find that Kx applications that are running > when I shut TDE down, open up again when I next boot. I was already > planning on using my husband's computer to get at Gmail direct to plead for > help in reclaiming my GUI (I usually use KMail and POP3), when to my > delight TDE opened up with no trace at all of Kicker. I don't intend to > risk opening Kicker again, even just to look at it! > > Is this what you mean by bugs??! > > Kick-off I have seen on KDE 4 and don't like it. Which is lucky, since I > apparently can't have it. ;-) > > > Sorry I didn't chime in sooner. I am all for keeping it, but that > > means that it needs to work well. Not freeze, not crash, and be very > > stable. If that is not the case, someone needs to work on it. if > > nobody wants to work on it I don't think it is appropriate to ship > > something that is unstable. > > If it is there anyway, why does Alexandre keep asking for it? (That's a > rhetorical question.) > > Lisi Bad luck Lisi! Only as an explanation not that I want you to do it. Obviously Kicker already is running (even when I can not find a process called like this). I'm not familiar with the naming but it's either the lower panel or the program that creates the K-Menue that is called this way. If you right klick the K-Meue there is an entry "Switch to Kickoff Menue Style" - there you are, you can switch between the two styles (Classical and Kickoff) easily. Even if I might not use it in future I've learned from this thread that it's there and I'm glad about it. Gerhard