On Monday 15 April 2013, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> Hi, Calvin,
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> On Sunday 14 April 2013 18:03:52 Calvin Morrison wrote:
> > Kickoff comes with all kicker installs you just need to enable it.
>
> I couldn't even find Kicker by what I would regard as usual means: launcher
> (for preference) or menu (if I have to).  I found it via locate and ran it
> from the command line with the full path.  It immediately removed my panel,
> then grabbed my desktop and started rolling it off the top of the screen,
> leaving me with an ever increasing area of black.  I could find no way of
> arresting the disappearance, so I opened up a terminal, praying that at
> least alt-ctrl-Fx would work.  It did.
>
> I logged in, entered init 6, crossed my fingers, said my prayers and barely
> dared to look.  On the whole I find that Kx applications that are running
> when I shut TDE down, open up again when I next boot.  I was already
> planning on using my husband's computer to get at Gmail direct to plead for
> help in reclaiming my GUI (I usually use KMail and POP3), when to my
> delight TDE opened up with no trace at all of Kicker.  I don't intend to
> risk opening Kicker again, even just to look at it!
>
> Is this what you mean by bugs??!
>
> Kick-off I have seen on KDE 4 and don't like it.  Which is lucky, since I
> apparently can't have it. ;-)
>
> > Sorry I didn't chime in sooner. I am all for keeping it, but that
> > means that it needs to work well. Not freeze, not crash, and be very
> > stable.  If that is not the case, someone needs to work on it. if
> > nobody wants to work on it I don't think it is appropriate to ship
> > something that is unstable.
>
> If it is there anyway, why does Alexandre keep asking for it?  (That's a
> rhetorical question.)
>
> Lisi

Bad luck Lisi!

Only as an explanation not that I want you to do it. Obviously Kicker already 
is running (even when I can not find a process called like this). I'm not 
familiar with the naming but it's either the lower panel or the program that 
creates the K-Menue that is called this way.

If you right klick the K-Meue there is an entry "Switch to Kickoff Menue 
Style" - there you are, you can switch between the two styles (Classical and 
Kickoff) easily. Even if I might not use it in future I've learned from this 
thread that it's there and I'm glad about it.

Gerhard