Hello, I'm a bit frustrated: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/trinitydesktop.org/trinity/releases/126.96.36.199/downloads.html gives a list of trinity packages in TDE 188.8.131.52. To use one example of a package listed on that page (there are many more examples), I can get kdelibs-trinity-184.108.40.206.tar.xz from there. Now I go to the git webpage: http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/ and there is no such package as kdelibs-trinity or kde* anything for that matter. But, there is tdelibs, with a tdelibs-220.127.116.11 tarball: v18.104.22.168 tdelibs-22.214.171.124.zip tdelibs-126.96.36.199.tar.gz Slávek Banko 10 months So, just to state what's looking pretty obvious, your http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/trinitydesktop.org/trinity/releases/188.8.131.52/ release page is about as useful as tits on a boar, right? Look, tdelibs-184.108.40.206, for all intents and purposes, has the appearance of belonging to trinity-blah-blah-blah release "220.127.116.11". But its not listed on the release page for the oh so boldly announced: "2013.07.21: Trinity Desktop Environment 18.104.22.168 SRU Released!" Why am I wrong in assuming that packageXXX-22.214.171.124 would belong to the "TDE 126.96.36.199 SRU Released!" collection of tarballs? Isn't 188.8.131.52 == 184.108.40.206 ? Maybe not. And even if I'm wrong about that, why isn't kdelibs-trinity even so much as listed on the GIT page? Even if its obsolete, there should a dead-link or something there saying so...whatever, not important. What is important is the fact that kdelibs-trinity-220.127.116.11 is vastly different than tdelibs-18.104.22.168, to wit, tdelibs has additional directories and functionality, etc. So two packages, each with the same version, only one of which is needed, and both of which fullfill the same role, are currently in a state where the obsolete one is listed as part of the official release download page, and the good one can't even be found referenced as part of the official release. So is there a collection of tarballs for a particular release, such as 22.214.171.124 SRU, or not? Should I just pull all tarballs from the git page? And if its just something as simple as a rename of kdelibs-trinity -> tdelibs, why wasn't the version bumped when extra directories were added? Never mind, I don't care about the "why" of anything. I just want to know where the hell I can download a set of "official" (whatever that means) packages for tde-126.96.36.199. And the release page ain't it...And by the way, I'm looking for source code, not some pansy mamby-pamby prebuilt set of binaries. Thanks, z.