On 15 April 2014 07:47, Felmon Davis <davisf@...> wrote: > > <snip> > > I'm not clear how you determined that the network devices are not loaded. > what did you do? > > Lisi said you should run > > /sbin/ifconfig -a > > but I wasn't sure if you actually ran this command. what did it say? in > particular is 'wlan1' or 'wlan0' there? > > have a look at > > /etc/network/interfaces > > what does it say? in particular, is the following line in there? > > iface wlan1 inet dhcp > > that may be 'wlan0' instead. > > and does lsmod show your iwifi stuff is loaded? > > there are a couple more things worth doing but this is enough for now since > I've asked a lot of questions. > > I find the debian stuff requires a lot of foolin' to get going but the worst > of it is, once it gets going you don't have to bother with it again for an > eternity so you forget the tricks and then have to re-learn on the rare > occasion when it does fail or you do a new install or something. > > I use the exegnu stuff exclusively. > > F. Hello, /sbin/ifconfig -a showed only the loopback device lo, and /etc/network/interfaces lists only lo. I did go to https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi, fetched the firmware deb, copied it into my Trinity partition (it has no internet) and followed the installation instructions. But after reboot, iwconfig still showed no wlan device. In reference to the asides on pclinuxos, etc, I found and tried Linux Mint Debian with MATE on a live USB - liked it and installed it in place of my Lubuntu setup. I find its interface much nicer than Lubuntu or XFCE and like its ability to make a wireless connection on my newer hardware. I am able to easily install and use some of my Trinity favorites like Krusader and Gwenview. So for the time being I will stick with it and avoid further frustration. Thanks to everyone for all the help and ideas! Robert