On Saturday 19 April 2014 10:25:58 Baron wrote:
> On Saturday 19 April 2014 02:39:20 Greg Madden wrote:
> > On Friday 18 April 2014 16:59:11 you wrote:
> > > On Friday 18 April 2014 04:22:56 you wrote:
> > > > Le 18/04/2014 05:10, Greg Madden a �crit :
> > > > > system: Debian Wheezy, TDE 3.5.13.2 amd64
> > > > >
> > > > > I recieve construction drawings as pdf"s. These are ARCH D
> > > > > = 24x36 or ANSI D = 22x34. I view them in kpdf, I print
> > > > > them to my printer using Tabloid,  paper size = 11x17.
> > > > >
> > > > > Only an 8x11 image gets printed on the 11x17 page.. Can not
> > > > > figure out how to get the correct size image, seems like
> > > > > shrink to fit, or some such  were options. Do not see any
> > > > > such in the kpdf print dialog.
> > > > >
> > > > > Using krinter to print the same file it prints an 11x17
> > > > > portion of the larger file size.
> > > > >
> > > > > kpdf has a different print dialog than kprinter...?,
> > > > >
> > > > > Using cups, server:/var/run/cups/cups.sock
> > > > > printer driver for  my HP Offficejet Pro 8600: hpcups
> > > > > 3.12.6
> > > >
> > > > If it is a one time go, The Gimp open PDF.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply.
> > >
> > > I do have solutions, evince and epdfview do the job. This is a
> > > core business function.
> > >
> > > Tried TDE R14 with Wheezy, same...tried the newer  hpcups
> > > driver and the older hpijs driver no joy.
> > >
> > >
> > > I would prefer to use kpdf, probably used to work at some time,
> > > need to find out what changed. The devs are spending alot of
> > > time getting all the apps to work, afaikt, thought I would test
> > > ..again, kpdf. I usually use 'best of ' apps for business, it
> > > is getting harder to do with all the apps being part of desktop
> > > environments.
> >
> > Officially confused,
> >
> >  Ledger=17"x11"
> > Tabloid=11"x17"
> > These are "North American paper sizes" Wikipedia
> >
> > Ansi B defines the measurements as 11x17 with alias's of Ledger
> > and Tabloid.
> >
> > Print dialog of kpdf lists Ledger as 11x17, no Tabloid
> >
> > Print dialog   of Evince lists Tabloid as 17x11, no Ledger entry.
> >
> > Both just the opposite of North American paper sizes, though I
> > will not assume to know which standard the cups devs used..there
> > are quite a few.
> >
> > bah humbug
>
> Isn't one just "Portrait" and the other "Landscape" !

To continue from lower (sorry. ;-(  ), 17x11 is a size.  (Called 
foolscap, among other names.) Portrait and Landscape are 
orientations.  This suggests that everything except orientation is 
fixed and immutable.  At least, that is what it suggested to me. From 
what you say, it is not what it was intended to suggest.

Lisi