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Month: July 2014

Re: [trinity-users] openSUSE 13.1

From: Felix Miata <mrmazda@...>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:42:14 -0400
On 2014-07-10 22:50 (GMT+0300) Serghei Amelian composed:

> Felix Miata wrote:

>> openSUSE 13.1 is over 7 months old, yet not listed on
>> .

>> When will TDE be available for it? Why is it missing?

> Maybe because the KDE3 is supported by OpenSUSE oficially?

Why should that matter when the 6 months out of support release 12.2 is still 
provided, and 13.1 is scheduled to replace 11.4 as the extended support 
release before the year is out?

On 2014-07-10 12:56 (GMT-0700) Mark S Bilk composed:

> TDE isn't
> so much needed (unless some of the improvements are wanted).

Why would there be any not wanted? It seems like this continued release lag 
would be inducement to continue an unfortunate duplication of effort keeping 
KDE3 alive that would seem better spent on TDE. AFAICT, KDE3 on openSUSE is a 
one person show. Would that one contributor give up or otherwise disappear, 
KDE would really be stone dead, as the KDE4 people would like, on the 
"current" openSUSE release.

I can't justify spending time to provide any input to the TDE development 
cycle because 12.2 is absolutely too old, and 12.3 is too old to be bothered 
wasting time on 5 months from EOL and 7 months after the unleashing of its 

Also, who would bother spending to try to tell if one is preferable to the 
other without being able to run both on a long-current release instead of a 
relative antique?

I can certainly live without TDE personally, having gotten by on KDE3 since 
its birth, but it puzzles me the preference of the deceased 12.2 over current 
13.1 in the TDE repos. It's disappointing to not be able to know what I may 
be missing without spending a dubiously worthwhile effort to find out.

Also FWIW, openSUSE Factory is shaping up as a rolling release, meaning even 
though 13.1 is current and will be the semi-official LTS before very long, 
proportionally more openSUSE users will surely be using the new Factory as a 
latest/current release instead of the official latest, and thus shut out of 
TDE on their distro of choice as long as the current availability situation 
remains unchanged.
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