On 08/12/14 08:42, Lou Gogan wrote: > On Tuesday 12 August 2014 14:00:23 Michele Calgaro wrote: >>> There are still people in the world who like things to *work*, not glitter. >> >> I think this is one of the best (if not "the best") description of what's > wrong with KDE4, Gnome 3 and any other DE that puts appeareance before > functionality!! >> >> Cheers >> Michele > > out why on earth somebody would want a window and its contents to wobble. It > was definitely targetting a 4 year old. I stopped being a 4 year old more than > 50 years ago. (no doubt I will be back at that stage in another 20 years or > more) but for the moment I just want computer to WORK FOR ME. If I want the Now, then, it's been 45+ years since I was *chronologically* a four-year-old, however ... :-) KDE4 is really quite sad. I was willing to accept the eye candy but even then, it doesn't work right. If you put a panel at the top of a screen it should be there after you go home at night and then come in the next day. Nope. All panels stuffed into one screen. And I didn't even logout, just locked the screen. So. At Slávek's suggestion, I installed all the TDE packages from his repo. Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to get the last few packages to install. I keep getting stuck here: sudo apt-get -f install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: crystalcursors tdmtheme-trinity Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The following extra packages will be installed: ksmserver-trinity Recommended packages: tde-ubuntu-integration The following NEW packages will be installed: ksmserver-trinity 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 191 not upgraded. 260 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0 B/248 kB of archives. After this operation, 589 kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y (Reading database ... 166837 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../ksmserver-trinity_4%3a14.0.0-s~1270-0ubuntu14.04.1+166_amd64.deb ... Unpacking ksmserver-trinity (4:14.0.0-s~1270-0ubuntu14.04.1+166) ... dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/ksmserver-trinity_4%3a14.0.0-s~1270-0ubuntu14.04.1+166_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/plasma-desktop', which is also in package plasma-desktop 4:4.11.10-0ubuntu0.1 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) I did the autoremove as apt-get suggested, which gives me: plaws@toto3:plaws $ sudo apt-get autoremove Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: kubuntu-desktop-trinity : Depends: ksmserver-trinity but it is not installed Recommends: kubuntu-default-settings-trinity but it is not installed Recommends: kubuntu-docs-trinity but it is not installable Recommends: kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts-trinity but it is not installable Recommends: networkstatus-trinity but it is not installable Recommends: libreoffice-trinity but it is not installable or openoffice.org-trinity but it is not installable Recommends: powernowd but it is not installable Recommends: scim-bridge-client-qt but it is not installable Recommends: scim-qtimm but it is not installable Recommends: skim but it is not installable Recommends: system-config-printer-tde-trinity but it is not installable Recommends: plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo-trinity but it is not installable tdebase-trinity : Depends: ksmserver-trinity (>= 4:14.0.0-s~1268-0ubuntu14.04.1+166) but it is not installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. And of course '-f' gives me the same. Do I need to remove some of the KDE4 packages? If so, which ones? -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology plaws@... College of Architecture, Regional and City Planning, MRCP '16 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Feedback? Contact my director, Matt Younkins, younkinsm@.... Thank you!