On Wednesday 17 September 2014 04:24:57 pm you wrote:
> I have today installed Debian Sid with TDE R14 on a Dell Inspiron
> 6400. I am very pleased to find everything (except suspend) seems to
> work fine with no systemd stuff whatsoever!
>
> I have at the moment an older version of dbus (1.5.8-1) .. later
> versions bring libsystemd-login0 .. and libpulse0 from stable, later
> versions bring libsystemd0. TDE needs dbus, kaffeine needs libpulse0.
> These libs may not be a problem anyway.
>
> Shutdown works. Usb notification/mounts work, which do not in other
> DE's without (or even with) systemd.
>
> Do TDE users want freedom (as much as is possible) from systemd?
>
> Does the TDE team have any particular policy towards systemd
> dependency?
>
> David

TDE user, Debian stable. I am going to use whatever Debian 
provides...that said I plan on using Wheezy as long as it is supported, 
hopefully LTS. I also have Debian Squeeze LTS boxes that work fine for 
the tasks they do.

I use Vbox with Jessie, systemd, I do not directly interact with the 
init system, works fine. I already make make judicious use of 
virtualization for the new stuff.

 I prefer a simple as possible gnu/linux environment because I do want 
to be in control of my own hardware. TDE is enough automagic for me.

GNU is not Unix though :-) 


-- 
Peace,

Greg