On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 12:51:09 +1000 "Michael ." <keltoiboy@...> wrote: > I avoid, like the plague, discussions about systemd purely because of the > FUD, emotional outbursts, and general scaremongering that I see in > discussions about systemd. This time I'm not going to avoid it because of > all the groups I take part in this one (and one other DE group) appear to > be very level headed and talk facts. > > Ok here's my take on systemd and Debian. Debian is the 2nd oldest of the > still current distros. It has remained a cornerstone of the Linux community > and a parent to 300+ distros for many years because of the good choices > made by the Debian community. You don't get a position of strength like > Debian has in the FOSS world with a track record of making poor choices. > The crew that makes up who says what and who says what stays and goes, etc, all voted and it came out a tie and had to be broken. That alone told me enough that half the Debian crew thought it was a bad idea. That's what I looked at and I'll take that to heart. You might want to post up some proof Linus is allowing that abortion into his kernel. I haven't heard anything about that yet.