On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 11:49:11AM -0400, Alexandre wrote:

> As a linux user, I'd say that the init system, as long as it works as 
> it should and it gets you to your TDE desktop, is not a big matter to 
> the end-user. 

There's the rub -- does systemd work *as it should*? I don't think so.

I'm not an expert, but the systems administrators I work with have 
nothing but scorn for systemd. They're not all old Linux grey-beards 
either, in fact the ones who hate systemd the most are the young guys.


> Also, do you remember how linux was almost as long to boot 
> than to shut down?

*shrug* I don't care too much. It would be nice if my Raspberry Pi would 
boot up a bit quicker, but my other Linux systems -- a server and two 
desktops -- are on virtually 24/7 for months at a time. I don't care if 
they take a couple of minutes to boot up, because I only do so maybe 
once every six months. (And if I had a UPS at home, it would be less 
than that.)

As an end-user, what really concerns me about systemd that it apparently 
turns it into Windows: every software update requires a reboot. If true, 
that is, frankly, disgraceful and inexcusable. Windows has 10 or 15 
years of history locking them into that behaviour. What's systemd's 
excuse?


-- 
Steven