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Re: [trinity-users] Sources list entry for Salvek's repository for LM17 was: Re: [trinity-users] gcc and Trinity dependencies

From: "Timothy Pearson" <kb9vqf@...>
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 16:06:00 -0600
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> On Tuesday 18 of November 2014 23:06:52 Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> On Tuesday 02 September 2014 16:20:55 Slávek Banko wrote:
>> > Dne út 2. září 2014 Lisi Reisz napsal(a):
>> > > Slávek -
>> > >
>> > > Should this be:
>> > >
>> > > deb http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb trusty deps-r14 main-r14
>> > > deb-src http://mirror.xcer.cz/trinity-sb trusty deps-r14 main-r14
>> > >
>> > > for Linux Mint 17?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Lisi
>> > >
>> > > P.S.  Yes, I know I could suck it and see, but I am struggling so
>> much
>> > > with being unable to see the awful MATE that I want to make as few
>> > > errors as possible while trying to render Mint visible - and
>> therefore
>> > > usable.
>> >
>> > Yes, Mint 17 is based on Ubuntu Trusty, so given APT sources should
>> work
>> > correctly.
>>
>> I have been struggling with the awful Linux Mint and MATE ever since.  I
>> felt that I must move beyond my comfort zone.  Debian and TDE is so easy
>> and so familiar.  So for my new box for playing streaming media on my
>> television I installed Linux Mint 17 with Mate.
>>
>> I have made myself give it a fair chance.  But I can stand it no longer.
>> So I bit the bullet, edited my sources.list, updated and tried to
>> install
>> TDE 14.
>>
>> This is the result:
>>
>> <quote>
>> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>>  tdeprint-trinity : Conflicts: foomatic-db-compressed-ppds but
>> 20140410-0ubuntu1 is installed.
>> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
>>
>>      Remove the following packages:
>> 1)     foomatic-db-compressed-ppds
>>
>>      Keep the following packages at their current version:
>> 2)     kubuntu-desktop-trinity [Not Installed]
>> </quote>
>>
>> Help!!
>>
>> I hope that I have copied and pasted enough.  As I say, I am struggling.
>> Mate, anyhow in its Linux Mint version, is almost invisible.  (To me, at
>> any rate.  But I can't use anyone else's eyes. ;-)  )
>>
>> I could, of course, simply wipe the lot and install my beloved Wheezy
>> and
>> TDE 3.13.2.2.  But that would be defeatist.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lisi
>>
>
> To return to the beginning of issues:
>
> Definition of conflict with foomatic-db-compressed-ppds I see as a big
> problem. Many other DE has it as a dependency and TDE because of this
> makes
> it quite complicated concurrent installation with another DE.
>
> If I understand well, the only effect is that with this package does not
> work
> the setup printer queue in TDE Control Center? However, the user can still
> set up the printer using the CUPS web interface. It is really useful to
> define this conflict package?

I thought we had a bug report open on tdeprint not supporting compressed
PPDs but now I can't find it.  If you can't find it either then a new
report should be filed.

Regarding the conflict, the problem is tdeprint will silently fail if the
compressed PPDs are installed (it thinks there are no PPDs on the system
in this case).  At minimum an error message stating that the uncompressed
PPDs need to be installed should be added to tdeprint so that the user
knows *why* tdeprint is failing.  There should also be a manual "Rebuild
Driver Database" button added somewhere in tdeprint.

I wonder how hard it would be to add compressed PPD support.  It seems
that tdeprint would just need to use the gzip ioslave instead of reading
each PPD directly...

Tim
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