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Month: November 2014

Re: [trinity-users] Email server maintenance

From: Ilya Dogolazky <ilya.dogolazky@...>
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 11:12:41 +0200
Hi Timothy!

2014-11-06 17:43 GMT+02:00 Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf@...>:

> During this window I will (in addition to many other changes) be
> addressing the sporadic list delivery issues to specific addresses
> relating to DKIM implementation on certain service providers.  It is hoped
> that these upgrades will stabilize the lists somewhat and make them easier
> to use.

Was your maintenance work in the beginning of November related to
sporadic "bouncing message" issue?

Sometimes messages from the list can't be delivered to my gmail
account, and I think it doesn't have to do with my account
specifically. Anyway, see the "bouncing warning" as an example below.
I receiving such warnings quite often. If it's a problem on the
mailing list side, then I could provide more information, not hesitate
to ask.

-- Ilya

Here is the "warning" I received today:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:  <trinity-users-help@...>
Date: 2014-11-21 2:34 GMT+02:00
Subject: warning from trinity-users@...
To: ilya.dogolazky@...

Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
trinity-users@... mailing list.

I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
at trinity-users-owner@....

Messages to you from the trinity-users mailing list seem to
have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce
message I received.

If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces,
I will remove your address from the trinity-users mailing list,
without further notice.

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Here are the message numbers:


--- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.

Return-Path: <MAILER-DAEMON@...>
Received: (qmail 8614 invoked by uid 64014); 8 Nov 2014 15:27:27 -0600
Received: by (Postfix)
        id 4A46664059F; Sat,  8 Nov 2014 15:27:27 -0600 (CST)
Date: Sat,  8 Nov 2014 15:27:27 -0600 (CST)
From: MAILER-DAEMON@... (Mail Delivery System)
Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
Auto-Submitted: auto-replied
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-Id: <20141108212727.4A46664059F@...>

This is a MIME-encapsulated message.

Content-Description: Notification
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

This is the mail system at host

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

                   The mail system

<ilya.dogolazky@...>: host[]
    said: 550-5.7.1 Unauthenticated email from is not accepted due to
    domain's 550-5.7.1 DMARC policy. Please contact administrator of
    domain if 550-5.7.1 this was a legitimate mail. Please visit 550-5.7.1 to learn about DMARC 550
    5.7.1 initiative. hz7si14466145icc.64 - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA

Content-Description: Delivery report
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X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 184B2640507
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822;
Arrival-Date: Sat,  8 Nov 2014 15:27:26 -0600 (CST)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; ilya.dogolazky@...
Original-Recipient: rfc822;ilya.dogolazky@...
Action: failed
Status: 5.7.1
Remote-MTA: dns;
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550-5.7.1 Unauthenticated email from is not
    accepted due to domain's 550-5.7.1 DMARC policy. Please contact
    administrator of domain if 550-5.7.1 this was a legitimate mail.
    Please visit 550-5.7.1 to
    learn about DMARC 550 5.7.1 initiative. hz7si14466145icc.64 - gsmtp

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From: Andy <Andy4stuff@...>
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Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 16:27:01 -0500
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Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Email server maintenance

On Saturday 08 November 2014 04:00:46 pm Timothy Pearson wrote:
> > On Saturday 08 November 2014, Andrew Young wrote:
> >> On 07/11/14 11:55, Baron wrote:
> >> > On Friday 07 November 2014 03:08:29 Timothy Pearson wrote:
> >> >> The Email server is now back online and functioning normally.
> >> >> Please let me know if you encounter any difficulties.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks!
> >> >>
> >> >> Tim
> >> >
> >> > I wonder, does this mean that I might be able to see my own posts. :-)
> >>
> >> That would be a useful feature.
> >
> > I might missunderstand but - I always see / saw my own mail on the list
> > (working with Kmail).
> > Gerhard
> Same here as well, with various clients.  I am aware of some providers
> having interoperability issues with the Email server;
> hopefully the upgrade has resolved most of them but I need feedback to
> know one way or the other.
> Tim

I'm using Yahoo email through Kmail. I *used* to see my own posts, but haven't
in a long time.


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