On Friday 02 January 2015, dep wrote: > said Gerhard Zintel: > | > avahi 1973 0.0 0.0 32308 1732 ? S 2014 0:01 > | > avahi-daemon: running [dep-desktop.local] > | > dep 3200 0.0 0.1 252184 17972 ? Sl 2014 > | > 1:04 /opt/trinity/bin/kdesktop > | > dep 11289 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? Z 2014 0:02 > | > [kdesktop_lock] <defunct> > | > dep 29758 0.0 0.0 9388 904 pts/0 S+ 16:12 0:00 grep > | > desktop > | > > | > nevertheless, it hasn't updated since 10:19:53 AM 26 December. and a > | > rmb click on the desktop does not produce the expected menu. > | > > | > | If not, kdesktop has crashed. You can type: > | > | kdesktop & from CLI to restart it (or alternatively Alt-F2 and then > | > | kdesktop). > | > > | > dep@dep-desktop:~$ kdesktop is already running! > | > > | > | If this brings everything back in order, please let us know because > | > | we need some more advanced testing to understand why and where > | > | kdesktop crashed. > | > > | > fwiw, top reports 3 zombies. > | > | have you tried to kill the running kdesktop beforehand (not the > | defuncts)? I assume it runns under process number 3200. Thus: > | $ kill -9 3200 > | > | and than launch kdesktop again? > > this worked. i do not know if we learned anything from its having worked, > but work it did. > I have to restore kdesktop from time to time this way (about each week). Others seems to have the problem as well. Tried to give debug information to the list but obviously with too less information yet. Have not written a bug report yet though. Gerhard BTW: I'm useing kmail. I just relized that I have to give Enter for line endings otherwise my mails are with very long lines in the list archives. That's very inconvenient especially when you do some edits before sending the mail. Kmail normally breaks down my line length automatically during writing. Why isn't this reflected in the archive? Can I tune this in the settings? Others seems not to have the problem.