[...] > > > > The only real solution is to get gmail _out_ of the path used to > > move the message both ways. One way is fine. > > Gmail isn't in my SMTP path. SMTP is sending,. The received header I show above confirms it came to me, from pearsoncomputing thru the gmail server farm. How are you receiving? If thru a different address/server there shouldn't be a problem. You haven't, that I can recall, related the address you use to receive. That does make a yes/no difference. > Please stop trying on my behalf to create a problem that isn't there. > That there is a problem I agree. But you have entirely misdiagnosed > it. With what information I have, that is entirely possible Lisi. Most, unaware of the problem, use the same address for both directions, and I had assumed that. My bad, and my apologies if that is untrue. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>