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Re: [trinity-users] How to get an onscreen keyboard?

From: andre_debian@...
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 23:16:52 +0200
On Monday 06 April 2015 09:51:58 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
> On Sunday 05 April 2015 22.52:45 andre_debian@... wrote:
> > I installed "kvkbd-trinity", but no onscreen-keyboard,
> > on my touchscreen computer with Jessie.
> > I can open applications and close applications with fingers,
> > but no onscreen-keyboard.

> What onscreen keyboard did you install? I installed kvkdb from the
> repositories Slavek indicated. The keyboard does not "pop up" by itself as
> on Android (but then it does not pop up when I have a physical keyboard
> either, as "onscreen" does). I put an icon in the Panel  and "call" it when
> needed.
> I don't know how this would work with a lock screen however...

> Hi Andre,
> First, start kvkbd-trinity, then it will stay in the notification area. You
> just have to click on it hen you need it. I am currently doing a similar
> setup on my newly received Sagem Spiga mini laptop. It has a keyboard, but
> the layout is hard to understand and very strange, so I will rely on the
> touch screen kb.
> I am almost sure that TDE doesn't support multi-touch features at this
> moment, but it might be provided by Xorg, so I might be wrong on this one.
> -Alexandre

Hello,

Thanks for your answers.

"kvkbd-trinity" works if I launch it (icon), 
(the keyboard is not very "practical" and not easy to use...)

With Windows-8, the onscreen-keyboard  starts automatically
when we need it.
Maybe too with the Desktop KDE4 or Gnome... ? (I will try asap),
and also testing the zoom with three fingers.

Very difficult to have the perfection... :-)

André

> I doubt tdm knows about 3 fingers and I also doubt it would be easy to
> teach it. That's probably what KDE 4 devs meant when they justified the new
> version because KDE 3 was impossible to make "touch friendly".
> > It does't come from the computer, because everything
> > works well with Windows-8.
> It comes from the fact that, if you use Trinity, you're basically using
> year 2000 software, and there were no tablets (at least running Linux) at
> the time.
> It's a little like criticising a 1970's car for not providing airbags...
> I don't know how or when KDE4 / Gnome 3 / Unity will get "tablet ready",
> but I must say I'm quite pleased with the fact that TDE "can be used" on a
> tablet, although it was not written for one!

>
> Basically, what I always thought proves to be right: those that are
> despreately trying to develop a user interface supposed to "scale" from a
> Desktop to a Tablet will fail, because a good Table interface will always
> feel clumsy on a big screen with a mouse (things too big, set up too
> streamlined) and a Desktop interface is quite unusable on a Tablet (unless
> you are fitted with stylus-like fingers, which is not my case).
> So if you put a desktop system on a tablet, you should not expect the same
> experience as Android. Apple is the only one to do it right: IOS is quite
> different from the OS X desktop. A pity it's made by Apple and suffers from
> Apple's policy.
> Thierry