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Re: [trinity-users] Running GUI programs as root in 14

From: Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@...>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:57:53 +0100
On Thursday 30 July 2015 09:32:48 Felix Miata wrote:
> Lisi Reisz composed on 2015-07-30 08:58 (UTC+0100):
> > Felix Miata wrote:
> >> Lisi Reisz composed on 2015-07-29 23:22 (UTC+0100):
> >> >Dan Youngquist wrote:
> >> >> Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >> >> > In the absence of kdesu, or tdesu, how do you run eg KWrite or
> >> >> > Konqueror as root in 14 on Debian?  Even gksu seems still to be
> >> >> > missing this time.
> >> >>
> >> >> Main menu / System / SuperUser, you should have both kwrite and
> >> >> konqueror.
> >> >
> >> > Unfortunately Konqueror and Konsole. :-(
> >>
> >> What's wrong with getting where you need to go via Konsole?
> >
> > I can't get there.  I run Debian.
>
> I don't understand. I thought you were running Jessie. ;-) What does
> running Debian have to do with whatever your objection with Konq and/or
> Konsole is?

Debian, by default, will not run a GUI as root.  So if oyu try to run a GUI 
application from the root Konsole you get:

root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# kwrite
Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the 
authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based 
authentication failed
root@Tux-II:/home/lisi#

> >> How often due you find it necesary to edit as root? Is there some
> >> problem using a readily available but more generic editor instead of
> >> KWrite for such tasks?
> >
> > Not often.  But when I do I find KWrite much the best for me.  I don't
> > have ot run TDE.  I could run KDE44 or Gnome or LXDE.  I don't have ot
> > run KWrite. In fact, at the moment I can't run KWrite as root, but I want
> > to run KWrite. And yes, there is a problem - I can't see anything else as
> > well.  But even if there weren't, why shouldn't I try to run it just
> > because I want to?
>
> I wasn't suggesting giving up your preferences, only offering workarounds
> for the period until such time as your expectations can be met.
 
I use nano.  I just don't like it anyhting like as much.

> > I shall continue to try to use those facilities of TDE that I have
> > particularly valued over the years.  If I can't, I can't.  One day I may
> > even be forced to choose between KDE4 and Windows.
>
> We don't want that, especially Win10, with its expanded intrusion on
> privacy. ;-)
>
> > ...
> >
> >> http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/tde14KonsoleSessionMenu.png
> >> http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/tde14KonsoleSessionMenu.png
> >>
> >> Are these Konsole session menu options missing on Jessie? MCEdit is how
> >> most system configuration maintenance gets done on all my installations.
> >> And of course, MC is one of the oldest and most feature packed file
> >> managers available. http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/Paradigm/
> >
> > Sorry, I can't see what you are getting at here.  But no, Konsole doesn't
> > offer me mc.  Probably because I haven't got mc installed.
>
> Is the root shell option missing from your Konsole menu too?

Of course not.
>
> I find it inexplicable that default installs cant be bothered to include
> this unequaled tool. :-(

Debian has decided not to allow GUI root log-ins.  It is not a case of "not 
being bothered", and there is nothing wrong with Konsole (which is supplied 
by TDE, not Debian).  mc is missing only because I have not got mc installed.  
You didn't ask about the rest of the menu.

In R14 <tdesu konsole> doesn't work either, but is easier to work round.

Lisi