On Monday 05 October 2015 10:16:49 Michael . wrote: > You could create a mirror on sourceforge which will then mirror to > sourceforge's own mirrors. Ermmm... We need someone who needs less hand-holding on this. :-( There is a whole philosophy involved in this. If we are a small niche hobbyist project, who enjoy talking to each other and our navels and using TDE ourselves, then there isn't really a problem. If we want to be accepted mainstream at some stage, and Mate and Cinnamon are both now in the Debian installer, this needs solving, and not just for mirrors. The main project page has to give usable advice. Usable every day, not just when the weather in the central United States is good. <quote> I'm still thinking that LXDE with Kthis and Kthat would probably be quite adequate for me, and would avoid these iffy repositories in Ultima Thule. And it sounded at the bbq as if that was a stumbling block for getting Ian on board as well. </quote> He installs for a lot of people. As does "Ian". He loved TDE. It was just what he was looking for. We are losing the battle. That is fine, if that is what we want. Tim, I am really grateful for what you do and have done. Without you TDE would not and could not exist. And we must clearly try to fund you better. But that is not the answer if TDE is to grow, and even survive. It cannot grow without a different, _larger_ and more reliable (as in weather and infrastructure) host. Lisi