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Re: [trinity-users] Repositories for TDE was Re: [trinity-users] Slávek's repository

From: Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@...>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 21:46:20 +0100
On Monday 05 October 2015 19:59:49 Slávek Banko wrote:
> On Saturday 03 of October 2015 17:09:27 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Saturday 03 October 2015 00:28:39 Slávek Banko wrote:
> > > On Friday 02 of October 2015 19:47:11 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > > I have just tried to install TDE, but have been told that Slávek's
> > > > repository is not accessible. ???  I'll try Tim's for now.
> > > >
> > > > Lisi
> > >
> > > Now I tried it and the web server appears to be normally available. I
> > > tested the availability of packages for Jessie and apt source seems to
> > > be fine.
> >
> > Yes, Slávek, I'm sorry.  I managed to install with Tim's repositories,
> > and, once I could see a bit, there was a comma instead of a full stop at
> > one point in your repository in my sorces.list.  I had checked and
> > checked it, but i just couldn't see it!! :-(
> >
> > I was lucky that Tim's was OK.  It very rarely is.  It is inaccessible
> > again this morning.
> >
> > This is an ongoing problem that I have with spreading the word about TDE.
> > Tim's repository is almost normally not available for us (in England?  On
> > the South Coast?  Everyone I know who tries to use TDE!), and it is hard
> > to find anything else to use.  When I asked recently I was told just to
> > use Tim's and it would chose the best mirror.  That is no use if Tim's is
> > unavailable.
> >
> > I always say just to use Slávek's.  Yesterday was the first time that
> > Slávek's has appeared to be unavailable, and in fact it was.  It is very
> > reliable, but hard to find for someone happening on the website.
> >
> > The error message that I am currently getting (it has been alright on
> > this particular computer for the last few days since I set it up when I
> > wrote the other day and asked about mirrors) is under my signature.
> >
> > Can we at least localise this problem.  It has been there ever since I
> > have been using TDE and makes installing TDE difficult.  Does it apply
> > anywhere other than the south of England?  Once we have localised it, can
> > someone help me solve it?  Perhaps we need to find a main mirror this
> > side of the Atlantic.
> >
> > And meanwhile what mirror does anyone other than Mike (thanks for your
> > advice, Mike, when I asked a week ago.  But as you can see it hasn't
> > helped) suggest for now I can't use a nice reliable Slávek one
> > for it?  I currently can't connect to the web archive (I was going to
> > link to my email about this of a week ago) so you won't even get this for
> > a bit!
> >
> > One person, who sets computers up for "old people" and decided that Unity
> > was too resource hungry for old computers, has abandoned TDE (which was
> > front runner) in favour of LXDE largely because of this problem.  It is
> > really very tedious to be unable to install/update time after time while
> > you wait for whatever gremlin is amusing himself to go away.  I just said
> > to use Slávek's repository, but he very reasonably pointed out that it
> > doesn't say so here:
> >
> > I was going to link to the page on how to get TDE.  It is unavailable.
> > There is obviously a larger problem at the moment.  But the update
> > problem is ongoing.
> >
> > There must be a reliable mirror somewhere that can be reached from
> > England. If not, give me a mentor who will help with advice, because I
> > don't know where or how to start, and I'll try to find you one.  And
> > anyhow I'll start asking people how to do it.
> >
> > The best, of course, would be to be in Debian's repostitories, but we
> > haven't the resources for that. :-(
> >
> > Perhaps we are just too small and need to find a millionnaire?
> >
> > Lisi
> > Error message for update:
> > W: Failed to fetch
> >
> >/d ists/wheezy/Release.gpg: Could not connect to
> >
> > ( - connect (113: No route to host)
> > W: Failed to fetch
> >
> >.1 3/debian/dists/wheezy/Release.gpg: Unable to connect to
> >
> > W: Failed to fetch
> >
> >/d ists/wheezy/main/i18n/Translation-en_GB: Unable to connect to
> >
> > W: Failed to fetch
> >
> >/d ists/wheezy/main/i18n/Translation-en: Unable to connect to
> >
> > W: Failed to fetch
> >
> >.1 3/debian/dists/wheezy/main/i18n/Translation-en_GB: Unable to connect to
> >
> > W: Failed to fetch
> >
> >.1 3/debian/dists/wheezy/main/i18n/Translation-en: Unable to connect to
> >
> > W: Failed to fetch
> >
> >/d ists/wheezy/main/binary-amd64/Packages: Unable to connect to
> >
> > W: Failed to fetch
> >
> >/d ists/wheezy/main/binary-i386/Packages: Unable to connect to
> >
> > W: Failed to fetch
> >
> >.1 3/debian/dists/wheezy/main/binary-amd64/Packages: Unable to connect to
> >
> > W: Failed to fetch
> >
> >.1 3/debian/dists/wheezy/main/binary-i386/Packages: Unable to connect to
> >
> > E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old
> > ones used instead.
> > E: Couldn't rebuild package cache
> Sorry, I did not realize that you do not have in mind the Preliminary
> stable builds, but my 3.5.13.x repository on the PPA. Unfortunately it is
> not available on mirrors. However, it is very consistent with the final
>, which is available on the official mirrors.
> the problem comes back to the unavailable of primary server during
> the weekend and discussion about vps.

No, there are two issues here, whicxh I confused because I was getting so 

Your prelimuinary stable builds which I was trying to install and couldn't.  
That turned out to be because I had mistyped and couldn't see.  Your 
repositiory is completely reliable.  On that occasion luckily Tim's was 

But you only have a repository for r14.  You no longer have one for 3.5.13 
because it is no longer being worked on.  So there is not a reliable source 
for it.  

Having had a very frustrating time trying to install r14 on a new install, 
when I finally succeeded I went to bed.  But next morning I came to update my 
desktop - - and couldn't.  See the error message above.  I am trying 
to proseletise TDE, but I can't when installation and updating are so 
horribly unreliable.  I convert people, and they say how lovely it is.  Start 
using it.  Hit problems installing and updating and run away again.

The over-riding problem is that only you have ever run a reliable repository 
ever since I have used TDE.  

And we keep being directed to the pearson computing site because it will 
direct us to the best mirror, but it doesn't.  How the United States lives 
with its rotten infrastructure beats me.  I suppose it is used to it, as we 
are to our overcrowded roads and ancient train system.

Google doesn't attempt to rely on the States:

Google data center locations. If you include data centers that are under 
construction, Google has 19 locations in the US where they operate data 
centers, 12 in Europe, one in Russia, one in South America, and three in 

Please, please, please can the main public facing stuff be somewhere else?