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Re: [trinity-users] Repositories for TDE was Re: [trinity-users] Slávek's repository

From: "Timothy Pearson" <kb9vqf@...>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 16:11:47 -0500
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> Having had a very frustrating time trying to install r14 on a new install,
> when I finally succeeded I went to bed.  But next morning I came to update
> my
> desktop - 3.5.13.2 - and couldn't.  See the error message above.  I am
> trying
> to proseletise TDE, but I can't when installation and updating are so
> horribly unreliable.  I convert people, and they say how lovely it is.
> Start
> using it.  Hit problems installing and updating and run away again.
>
> The over-riding problem is that only you have ever run a reliable
> repository
> ever since I have used TDE.

In that case why don't you simply pick a mirror and use it?  From what you
are saying any of the mirrors would be infinitely more reliable than the
main site, so I would strongly suggest doing so.

> And we keep being directed to the pearson computing site because it will
> direct us to the best mirror, but it doesn't.  How the United States lives
> with its rotten infrastructure beats me.  I suppose it is used to it, as
> we
> are to our overcrowded roads and ancient train system.

Well, our roads are crumbling and our train system is truly ancient, not
to mention our atrocious public transport (where you take your life in
your hands just to travel).  What's really frustrating is the lack of
proper Internet service on top of all that.

> Google doesn't attempt to rely on the States:
>
> <quote>
> Google data center locations. If you include data centers that are under
> construction, Google has 19 locations in the US where they operate data
> centers, 12 in Europe, one in Russia, one in South America, and three in
> Asia.
> </quote>

Google is a multi-billion dollar business that makes money off of selling
your private data to third parties.  Are you saying I can start selling
any data I glean from your private systems for my own profit?  (NOTE: I
don't do that, and in fact technically _can't_ do that, however the point
on the differing business models is very real and valid.)  There is a BIG
difference between grassroots open source (as TDE is) and large
corporation-sponsored "open source" -- the latter works very rarely in the
public interest, and at least in the US is almost always funded by some
not so savory business practices.  Even the Linux kernel has some issues
due to its corporate sponsorship; it will never be relicensed as GPLv3
even though over time it is expected that most people will lose the
ability to modify the kernel running on their systems as a result.  Scary
stuff!

> Please, please, please can the main public facing stuff be somewhere else?

If you read my prior Email you would know that it _will_ be placed
somewhere else, in 3 - 6 months.  In the meantime Slavek and I are working
on a way to mitigate the access issues for certain services, although this
is being done at the expense of security (watch your apt-get output
carefully everyone, and make sure the GPG keys are valid....)

Tim
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