On Wednesday 07 October 2015 15:51:54 Curt Howland Lisi wrote: > It looks like Debian's new version is more than just systemd. > > Trinity v14.0.2 > Debian 8 Yes, I have hit that too. This particular one and another case. I decided last night that until Jessie is release ready, and important "minor" bugs like this are ironed out, my one Jessie box is going to be Wheezy as soon as I get the time. (I nearly said "Is going back to Wheezy", but it is a new box and has never been Wheezy.) Lisi