On Saturday 14 November 2015 16:49:22 Kate Draven wrote: > On Saturday 14 November 2015, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings; > > > > Twice in the last 2 weeks I have been forced to reboot the machine, > > as it had a locked up, unkillable session of kmail showing in htop. > > I had hit the list reply button, only to be greeted by the spinning > > dumbell mouse cursor, which would spin forever. The machine was NOT > > stuck in a loop someplace burning up cpu's, nothing, not even kmail > > was showing any great cpu activity, but the process itself was > > unkillable. > > > > This time I was attempting to teach Bret Busby how to construct a > > sig separator, the \r-- \r sequence and it was one of his reply > > messages I was reading & tried to reply to when it locked up. > > > > This reboot took around 30 minutes because /amandatapes-1T, a > > terabyte drive, had not been fsck'd in 181 days, and fscking a > > terabyte drive, even if no errors other than severe fragmentation > > (62%) exist is a 30 to 45 minute process. Amanda, the backup > > program, /thinks/ the drive is a 30 tape, changer equiped library. > > (except its 10,0000% more dependable that such a mechanical monster > > would be, and 2% of the cost) I'd hate to think how long it will > > take to do a 2 terabyte drive as there is now 4 of them here at the > > Heskett mini-ranchette. Its difficult to buy anything smaller. > > > > I deleted the last 4 messages from him from ~/Mail/kubuntu-users/cur > > before I restarted kmail, knowing I'd be going thru the same hung > > machine procedure if I didn't. Last time I made 3 reboots trying, > > and finally just cleaned out the folder (a different one) before > > trying a 4th reboot & kmail restart. That, like this, complained > > about the index file being corrupted on the launch of kmail but > > normal operation was able to be resumed. > > > > Has anyone a clue just what gmail is doing now? Or how to fix kmail > > so it tolerates a message posted from their (IMNSHO) busted webmail > > app? > > > > This is R14.0.0.2 I believe. Last updated from Slavics? server a > > day back. > > Looks like I'll need to reboot again, I have a net caused ooops in > > the log, and my local network is dead although I can ping yahell. > > > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > Gmail has had some hiccups of late. As Google is trying to implement > more DRM & spyware into their products and services. Gmail recently > went down for a few hours according to a contact. > > Try activating the pop along with imap. I use that combo and all is > well. When I use the imap alone, bad things happen "Bad things > Mickey!" > > Cheers to all, > All I do is pop it with fetchmail. With the exception of nuking known bad stuff ahead of fetchmail with mailfilter, all processing is done here on this machine. > Kate > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > trinity-users-unsubscribe@... For additional > commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@... Read > list messages on the web archive: > http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to > top-post: > http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>