On Tuesday 17 November 2015 02:41:29 Steven D'Aprano wrote: > As for Michael, who wrote in another email to complain about people > contacting him off-list, I think Michael's demand that people keep > off-topic discussions about politics on this mailing list is > *completely* wrong and harmful. > > Two or three messages in the heat of the moment may be understandable > and forgivable, but there comes a time where we as a community should > bite our lips (or sit on our typing hands) and stop. There are plenty of > other forums to debate and argue the political situation (Facebook, > Reddit, Twitter, etc.), please take it there. > > If Michael wishes to *request* that people don't contact him off-list, > that is one thing. (Of course, people are free to ignore his wishes, > just as he is free to delete their emails.) But to insist that people > take *private* and *off-topic* messages public, well, I consider that > far more rude and harmful to this community than the things that Michael > was complaining about. After all, he is free to just ignore any > aggressive or disagreeable private messages, but (unless he is the list > owner) I think that he is out of line in encouraging others to pollute > this list with off-topic messages. Especially disruptive and angry > messages about politics. Michael has had a good go at me before when I have eventually taken his more vituperative attacks on me off line. Look what I have just received; persecution or what!!!! And why?? I have blacklisted him, but I haven't told him that: ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: (#88876041) Gmail Forwarding Confirmation - Receive Emails from keltoiboy@... Date: Tuesday 17 November 2015, 10:26:34 From: Gmail Team <forwarding-noreply@...> To: lisi.reisz@... keltoiboy@... has requested to automatically forward mail to your email address lisi.reisz@.... Confirmation code: 88876041 To allow keltoiboy@... to automatically forward mail to your address, please click the link below to confirm the request: https://mail-settings.google.com/mail/vf-%5BANGjdJ_-nWHlMPkJ5AUO_X73lcaukJ9fSJd8WMPlJowPCqXkSb6IRCuHEPju9XTfaSVXr1ZMIUX1cMPys9mV%5D-Y0D2KpMYHJ8uS722sNcGSgt4o8s If you click the link and it appears to be broken, please copy and paste it into a new browser window. If you aren't able to access the link, you can send the confirmation code 88876041 to keltoiboy@.... Thanks for using Gmail! Yours sincerely, The Gmail Team If you do not approve of this request, no further action is required. keltoiboy@... cannot automatically forward messages to your email address unless you confirm the request by clicking the link above. If you accidentally clicked the link, but you do not want to allow keltoiboy@... to automatically forward messages to your address, click this link to cancel this verification: https://mail-settings.google.com/mail/uf-%5BANGjdJ8wcu0xqNBCklFOA5RwELCqqdfqkbVYPdqbuxzLdYX_ukIyFIs5co_SWo7FmGHpLnW5lZz0hIBw94-Z%5D-Y0D2KpMYHJ8uS722sNcGSgt4o8s To learn more about why you might have received this message, please visit: http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=184973. Please do not respond to this message. If you'd like to contact the Google.co.uk Team, please log in to your account and click 'Help' at the top of any page. Then, click 'Contact Us' along the bottom of the Help Centre. -------------------------------------------------------