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Re: [trinity-users] KSysV missfire

From: Gene Heskett <gheskett@...>
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 03:08:36 -0500
On Saturday 19 December 2015 02:42:50 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:

> Hi Gene!
>
> Where's the problem of giving root a password?
>
> nik
>
The last time I did that, somewhere along about the time of fedora 2, it 
destroyed sudo, and I then rebooted single and nuked it, expecting sudo 
to come back, but it didn't so reinstall time.  I was sick of being Red 
Hat's lab rat always suffering from some redhat experiment you couldn't 
get fixed, so I used my lappy to pull and burn the cd and bailed to 
mandrake, then pclos for a while, but it wasn't at all compatible with 
linuxcnc, so I finally went with wheezy for transparent compatibility. 
In that regard it has been truly excellent since the latest LCNC is 
wheezy based.

Thank deity I had already setup a decent backup (amanda), so the 
transistions between distro's, while not painless, has not cost me a lot 
of data in the long view. 

However,  since they want sudo to be used, leaving root passwordless, I 
am not fussy as long as it works. But I am not going to set a root PW if 
its going to screw up the rest of the stuff that expects sudo to work.

> Am Samstag, 19. Dezember 2015 schrieb Gene Heskett:
> > On Saturday 19 December 2015 01:52:46 Michele Calgaro wrote:
> > > On 12/17/2015 03:06 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Greetings;
> > > >
> > > > Out of curiosity, I tried to run ksysv from the tde menu. 
> > > > Can't. If insists on a root pw that does not exist on this
> > > > debian wheezy install. A sudo -i in a konsole for me, and it
> > > > runs just fine.
> > > >
> > > > This really ought to be fixed.  No biggie for me, but...
> > > >
> > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > >
> > > No issues here  (Debian/Stretch) with ksysv. Just typed in the
> > > root password and it worked flawlessly. The fact that ksysv
> > > requires root password is not surprising since you are playing
> > > with the system config. Cheers
> > >   Michele
> >
> > You missed the point, it demands a root pw, that on this wheezy
> > system, does not exist, so it cannot be launched from the menu entry
> > by any pw entered.  The pw used for doing a sudo is not accepted. 
> > That was my point.
> >
> > Don't put it in the menu's at all if the user cannot use his sudo to
> > get the root rights it needs.
> >
> > I am used to defeating petty attempts to mold linux networking to
> > someones idea of consistency, but which is an abject failure where
> > one's home network, all behind a good router, is all based on the
> > common to all machines /etc/hosts file, with a locally carved in
> > granite hostname per machine.  Turning network-mangler loose in that
> > environment is a no networking disaster, so the first thing you have
> > to do on the install reboot, is sudo -i, make the entry's for that
> > machine
> > in /etc/network/interfaces, chmod +i that file, then nuke the link
> > and make a real /etc/resolv.conf, and chmod +i that.  If udev hasn't
> > played with things and moved eth0 to something else, thats it.  Your
> > networking Just Works(TM)  Then at your leasure you can uninstall
> > network-mangler. No use of its burning cpu cycles trying to tear
> > down what you just made immutible.
> >
> > Network-mangler might be of use in the situation where the machine
> > is connected directly to the access modem. Thats for folks who do
> > not understand the need for an isolating, natting, 20 hungry
> > pit-bull guard dogs for a firewall, router.  Without that, a windows
> > box is owned 30 seconds after the cat5 is plugged in. The linux box
> > is at risk but its lower.  I haven't worried about that since I
> > discovered dd-wrt, which can be reflashed into the better routers.
> > To me, its a transparent gateway to the net.  To the net, if no port
> > forwarding is being done, its a cable with an address with nothing
> > on the other end of it.
> >
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
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