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Re: [trinity-users] Messages bouncing again

From: Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@...>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 00:36:08 +0000
On Monday 11 January 2016 20:51:26 Nick Koretsky wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 17:54:55 +0000
>
> Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@...> wrote:
> > I have been getting messages again from the ezmlm program.  They have
> > improved - at least now I shall only be ejected if the probe fails, not
> > if *I* bounce another message.
> >
> > In itself it is not a problem, since I can ignore or delete them, but it
> > means that I get none of deloptes' messages to this list.  The error
> > message that I am sent suggests that it is Gmail's fault, but both
> > deloptes and I use exactly the same email addresses on the Debian list as
> > on this one, and I get his messages there, so it must in some way be due
> > to ezmlm.  Is there anything I, or anyone here, can do about it?
>
> It is a Yahoo fault. Yahoo uses ant-spoofing scheme called DMARC, basically
> telling the world "reject any mail with @yahoo From fields if they a not
> coming from yahoo mail servers". Gmail honors that request and reject
> deloptes messages to the list because they a coming from TDE servers.

Thanks for the explanation, Nick.  But why do I get the Debian list ones?  
Presumably they take ownership, do they?

Lisi
>
> The possible solutions are
> a. (best) convince deloptes to resubscribe to list using different address
> (actually many lists block subscriptions to them using yahoo addresses)
> b. yourself resubscribe to list using an address which ignores DMARC
> c. convince trinity maillists admins to change ezmlm settings so its "takes
> ownership" of the messages (but this mangles From field among other
> things, so many consider this to be a bad solution).