On Monday 11 January 2016 20:51:26 Nick Koretsky wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 17:54:55 +0000 > > Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@...> wrote: > > I have been getting messages again from the ezmlm program. They have > > improved - at least now I shall only be ejected if the probe fails, not > > if *I* bounce another message. > > > > In itself it is not a problem, since I can ignore or delete them, but it > > means that I get none of deloptes' messages to this list. The error > > message that I am sent suggests that it is Gmail's fault, but both > > deloptes and I use exactly the same email addresses on the Debian list as > > on this one, and I get his messages there, so it must in some way be due > > to ezmlm. Is there anything I, or anyone here, can do about it? > > It is a Yahoo fault. Yahoo uses ant-spoofing scheme called DMARC, basically > telling the world "reject any mail with @yahoo From fields if they a not > coming from yahoo mail servers". Gmail honors that request and reject > deloptes messages to the list because they a coming from TDE servers. Thanks for the explanation, Nick. But why do I get the Debian list ones? Presumably they take ownership, do they? Lisi > > The possible solutions are > a. (best) convince deloptes to resubscribe to list using different address > (actually many lists block subscriptions to them using yahoo addresses) > b. yourself resubscribe to list using an address which ignores DMARC > c. convince trinity maillists admins to change ezmlm settings so its "takes > ownership" of the messages (but this mangles From field among other > things, so many consider this to be a bad solution).