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Re: [trinity-users] Messages bouncing again

From: Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@...>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 00:46:31 +0000
On Tuesday 12 January 2016 00:36:08 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Monday 11 January 2016 20:51:26 Nick Koretsky wrote:
> > On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 17:54:55 +0000
> >
> > Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@...> wrote:
> > > I have been getting messages again from the ezmlm program.  They have
> > > improved - at least now I shall only be ejected if the probe fails, not
> > > if *I* bounce another message.
> > >
> > > In itself it is not a problem, since I can ignore or delete them, but
> > > it means that I get none of deloptes' messages to this list.  The error
> > > message that I am sent suggests that it is Gmail's fault, but both
> > > deloptes and I use exactly the same email addresses on the Debian list
> > > as on this one, and I get his messages there, so it must in some way be
> > > due to ezmlm.  Is there anything I, or anyone here, can do about it?
> >
> > It is a Yahoo fault. Yahoo uses ant-spoofing scheme called DMARC,
> > basically telling the world "reject any mail with @yahoo From fields if
> > they a not coming from yahoo mail servers". Gmail honors that request and
> > reject deloptes messages to the list because they a coming from TDE
> > servers.
>
> Thanks for the explanation, Nick.  But why do I get the Debian list ones?
> Presumably they take ownership, do they?

They "resend" it, whatever they mean by that.  So it says sent from Joe Blogs, 
resent from debian-user@...  That requires a lot of mauling does 
it?

Lisi

> Lisi
>
> > The possible solutions are
> > a. (best) convince deloptes to resubscribe to list using different
> > address (actually many lists block subscriptions to them using yahoo
> > addresses) b. yourself resubscribe to list using an address which ignores
> > DMARC c. convince trinity maillists admins to change ezmlm settings so
> > its "takes ownership" of the messages (but this mangles From field among
> > other things, so many consider this to be a bad solution).
>
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