I don't understand your issues with Kate - it has been my friend all the time and never let me down. It supports sessions, code highlighting, file history and many more useful features. If I want to read a simple text file I use Kedit - thus in konqueror kedit is first choice, but for scripting/code reading and making notes I prefer kedit. I write this, so that there is one voice for Kate. Not that someone has the wrong impression of me or Kate. > > That has been my solution to getting rid of kate. I liked gedit, but it > scrambled the contents of a file one too many times so I'm using geany > now. A pretty face, less capable, but has yet to scramble a file just > while changing one byte in it. Plugins are gradually appearing as coders > scratch their own personal itches. plugins in kate are not mandatory > > I think my distaste for kate probably starts with its default font > selections. Ugly is being kind... font is easy customizable. In fact I like the Monospace as it has fixed width for each char, so that the position is also fixed. regards