On Friday 26 February 2016 00:07:27 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 23 February 2016 09:17:34 Thierry de Coulon wrote: > > On Tuesday 23 February 2016 09.27:39 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > In the event that it works for HD with winderz but not linux, the > > > list to ask next would be the v4l list on vger.kernel.org (I > > > think, I've not been on it in a couple years) Some pretty sharp > > > digital video folks hang out there. You'll need to show them the > > > lspci or lsusb/lshw output so they can properly ID the chipset in > > > the stick. > > > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > > > I can confirm that it works with Windows (same stick, on the same > > machine). There seem to be two problems: > > > > a) Can Kaffeine display HD TV? If not there's not much to do short > > of looking for another program. > > kaffeine can display HD TV, but I've had to move some firmware around > so it could be found and uploaded to my card, and I can report that tv > test utilities that are supplied by the pcHDTV-3000 card (that I have) > vendor, now display all the local channels signal strengths with > dtvscan, and that dtvsnr now reports sensible values on the active > channels, and likewise dtvsignal shows sensible signal strengths on > the locally active channels. > > HOWEVER, kaffeine is not finding what dtvscan discovers, IMNSHO > because it scans about 20x faster than the card can achieve lock on a > new frequency, ignoring the 1.5 to 2 or even 5 seconds allowed for > lock time in one of its setup menu's. kaffeine's scanner claims it > has scanned half a gigahertz and found nothing in something under a > minute. dtvscan takes around 3, maybe 4 minutes, starting at channel > 2, to find and report good signals on north american atsc channels 5, > 10, 12, and 33. > > > b) How can I create a new program list, as w_scan crashes (so badly > > that it locks the machine competely). > > You may have something missplaced, before I could make the cards > software/firmware load, I had to cp the contents > of /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/* to /lib/firmware. It seems todays > systems have moved the default location for this stuff, which for my > card, was set 9 years ago, in 2007. Along that same train of thought, > perhaps something kaffeine needs has been moved. Its all stable here, > no crashes while exploring the dvb menu's, but it doesn't work either. > I see it has the ability to manually add a channel but haven't tried > that, I should have at least one eye open, which this time of the > night locally, isn't always the state. Theoretically, I should be > able to use the data that dtvsignal reports to compose a manually > added entry. > > These utilities I mention are of course specific to this card, > hopefully you have similar utilities available for your card or > dongle? > > So you may want to take a look at your dmesg output for messages > similar to this: > > [56092.124304] or51132: Waiting for firmware > upload(dvb-fe-or51132-vsb.fw)... > [56092.124323] cx88-mpeg driver manager 0000:01:08.2: firmware: failed > to load dvb-fe-or51132-vsb.fw (-2) > [56092.124327] cx88-mpeg driver manager 0000:01:08.2: Direct firmware > load failed with error -2 > [56092.124329] cx88-mpeg driver manager 0000:01:08.2: Falling back to > user helper > > Which should look more like this, card diffs notwithstanding: > > [56620.469051] or51132: Waiting for firmware > upload(dvb-fe-or51132-vsb.fw)... > [56620.469454] cx88-mpeg driver manager 0000:01:08.2: firmware: > direct-loading firmware dvb-fe-or51132-vsb.fw > [56623.063706] or51132: Version: 10001134-19430000 (113-4-194-3) > [56623.064325] or51132: Firmware upload complete. > > And, noting the cx88 above, an "lsmod | grep cx88" returns quite a > lengthy list of suspects: > > gene@coyote:/usr/src/dvb-atsc-tools-1.0.8$ lsmod |grep cx88 > cx88_dvb 30487 0 > cx88_vp3054_i2c 12564 1 cx88_dvb > videobuf_dvb 12762 1 cx88_dvb > dvb_core 101854 3 cx88_dvb,videobuf_dvb,or51132 > cx8800 35230 0 > cx8802 17368 1 cx88_dvb > cx88xx 80293 3 cx88_dvb,cx8800,cx8802 > btcx_risc 12555 3 cx8800,cx8802,cx88xx > tveeprom 20593 1 cx88xx > videobuf_dma_sg 17248 4 cx88_dvb,cx8800,cx8802,cx88xx > videobuf_core 21831 5 > videobuf_dma_sg,videobuf_dvb,cx8800,cx8802,cx88xx > rc_core 22405 13 > ir_sharp_decoder,lirc_dev,ir_lirc_codec,rc_hauppauge,ir_rc5_decoder,ir >_nec_decoder,ir_sony_decoder,cx88xx,ir_mce_kbd_decoder,ir_jvc_decoder,i >r_rc6_decoder,ir_sanyo_decoder v4l2_common 12995 3 > tuner,cx8800,cx88xx > videodev 130540 4 tuner,cx8800,cx88xx,v4l2_common > i2c_algo_bit 12751 3 cx88_vp3054_i2c,cx88xx,nouveau > i2c_core 50108 17 > drm,cx88_dvb,tuner,drm_kms_helper,tda8290,tda9887,i2c_algo_bit,cx88_vp >3054_i2c,cx8800,cx88xx,v4l2_common,tveeprom,nouveau,tuner_simple,or5113 >2,i2c_nforce2,videodev > > I would assume that for whatever chipset is in your device, you would > be getting a similar output as above, chipset diffs notwithsranding. > > Maybe there is a clue here for you. For me, its plain that kaffeine > itself isn't functional as currently configured on my machine, using > the TDE version of 8.8. > > > I'll take a look at the v4l list. thanks. > > > > Regards, > > Thierry > > Cheers Thierry, Gene Heskett Ping!! First, did this hep Theirry? And I am still dead here, I have installed all the xawtv stuff only to find that no ATSC functionaliy has been added. It can get the 1 signal from a 10 watt translator about 20 miles away that is still broadcasting in NTSC format, but at that distance and wattage, the signal to noise is about 1/1 when conditions are good, perhaps 5% of the time. I have installed all the dvb_apps and friends, but while it finds the "Oren OR51132 VSB/QAM Frontend" doesnt support TERRCABLE_ATSC apparently not finding the atsc list for std terrestrial broadcasting in the US, so until I can find a configurator to tell it different, thats out. That leaves kaffeine, whose scanner scans about 3 or 4 channels a second, not giving this card adequate time to lock to the signal so it registers. the KDE version of kaffeine did in fact work well with this card an iteration or 2 back up the log, not too long before I installed TDE in fact. However, I can find no means to slow its at least 10x too fast channel scan that it does now. And the site it got program listngs from seems to be defunct too. Is there not another application yet that will play ATSC broadcasts? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>