On 01/04/2017 04:36 PM, Leslie Turriff wrote:
>> I only see a countdown timer once in a while when some program refuses to
>> close.  Is that what you're talking about?  If so, best solution would
>> probably be to identify the offending program and shut it down first.
> 	That would work, but then when I restart my machine, none of my apps will 
> restart.  In my experience, the only apps that hang up the shutdown process 
> are those that the DE is not aware of, e.g. X applications.

If there's a particular thing it always hangs on, I guess I'd be trying to
figure out why.  You can always force the shutdown, but of course there may
be a risk of data loss.

Or you could go to a root shell and type 'init 0', and see if that's faster.