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Re: [trinity-users] Re: Create TDE bug-tracker ticket regarding Konqueror's broken support for modern web

From: Jonesy <trinity@...>
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 07:03:35 -0600 (MDT)
On Thu, 6 Apr 2017, Jan Kleks wrote:
>2017-04-06 13:48 GMT+02:00 E. Liddell <ejlddll@...>:
>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2017 07:46:40 deloptes <deloptes@...> wrote:
>> > Jan Kleks wrote:
>> >
>> > > I think this is a very important issue. Maybe a bug-tracker ticket
>> > > should be created for discussing possible solutions?
>> >
>> > I think we've already discussed it. My impression is that at the end it
>> > comes to man power. With only few developers it's not possible to do
>> > implement something better.
>> >
>> > I suggest you discuss the topic on the dev thread. Perhaps we can make a
>> > roadmap or something and slowly improve some aspects.
>>
>> Improving KHTML isn't in the cards, I don't think.  Previous discussions
>> have focussed around porting the entire browser to a new rendering engine
>> (generally KHTML's descendant Webkit) that already supports the missing
>> CSS3 and HTML5 features.  There's just never been enough manpower to
>> do the work.
>>
>> The Javascript engine probably also needs to be updated.  I don't know
>> how susceptible it is to piecemeal upgrades, as opposed to dropping the
>> entire thing and adopting something written for another browser.
>>
>Apart from Webkit there is also QtWebEngine used, for instance, by Otter
>Browser (
>http://browsingthenet.blogspot.com/2016/03/k-meleon-vs-qupzilla-vs-otter-browser.html).
>This engine might be worth considering as well.
>
>An alternative to replacing the rendering engine would be to remove
>Konqueror's web capabilities altogether (what's the point of have a broken
>browser?), and adopting another lightweight browser for the TDE (or just
>removing Konqueror and leaving the matter of installing their favorite
>browser to the users).
>
>For the time being, when launching Konqueror for the first time it could
>show a message that web rendering is broken for now, and the TDE Team
>suggest installing another browser. So that the users won't think that the
>TDE is outdated or something because of this.

I use konqueror foremost as a file manager _between_ systems (sftp://...)
AND as an old browser to check my web pages to insure they play nice
when visited by someone using an older browser.

I don't doubt that others do, too.
Jonesy
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