On 07/08/17 22:45, Felix Miata wrote: > Tim Williams composed on 2017-08-07 15:52 (UTC-0400): > > > Crashed, crashed, crashed. Exactly the same TQString::TQString(TQString const&) > as from your 2017-08-06 20:57 (UTC+0100) thread post every time? Are there no > logged clues in journalctl, dmesg, .xsession-errors, Xorg.0.log or elsewhere? The error that shows on the login is from ksmserver, I haven't tried to run it with gdb again to see if the TQTString error shows up, but it's a fair bet it's the same. > The PC I mentioned 2017-08-06 18:58 -0400 is i586. TDM works to login and get a > TDE session working, but if I try without TDM running via startx, startx gets > Xorg running, but it immediately terminates. Good to know, my 2 other computers are both running X86_64 and TDE is working perfectly on both, so this has got to be pretty hardware specific, but is a bit of a mystery. The software set up on my laptop is very similar. Since I had the case open, I also tried pulling out my soundcard and video capture card, just in case there was some kind of hardware scan that was crashing things. > > Which *tqt* packages are installed? Does anything among > <http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/buglist.cgi?chfieldfrom=22m&chfieldto=Now&f1=component&f2=component&f3=component&list_id=5218&o1=notequals&o2=notequals&o3=notequals&product=TDE&query_format=advanced&short_desc=tqt&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&v1=fedora&v2=debian&v3=ubuntu> > look related? None of them stands out. > If you log onto IRC irc://freenode/trinity-desktop maybe SlavekB could help more > than mere users here? trinity-devel list likewise at this point seems likely > better suited to actually solving your problem. Indicate exactly which NVidia > device you have. Better help may result from keeping the NVidia driver > uninstalled until the problem is resolved. Thanks, I'll keep that as an emergency backup, IRC isn't really my thing. > Another thought, since you're apparently not averse to reinstalling on a > separate HD: try a different TDE supported RPM distro, PCLinuxOS, CentOS, > openSUSE or Fedora. If no crash there, probably not a(n unsolvable) hardware issue. I might give CentOS 7 a go, I think I have an install image somewhere. Thanks again. Tim W -- Tim Williams BSc MSc MBCS AutoTrain 58 Jacoby Place Priory Road Edgbaston Birmingham B5 7UW United Kingdom Web : http://www.autotrain.org, http://www.utrain.info Tel : +44 (0)844 487 4117 AutoTrain is a trading name of EuroMotor-AutoTrain LLP Registered in the United Kingdom, number: OC317070.