On Monday 11 September 2017 12:40:05 Tim Williams wrote:
> On 08/09/17 02:13, wofgdkncxojef@... wrote:
> > in /opt/trinity/bin/starttde
> > at line 787, put a large number.
> > when it crashes, you'll see what it does
> > and what drkonqi has to say about it.
> > Maybe it even works properly....
>
> I increased the number to 500, but that didn't seem to have any effect,
> drkonqi still vanished at the exact moment the debugging symbols appear
> in the backtrace tab.
>
> However making the following edit at that point as per your instructions:
>
> $TDEDIR/bin/kdesktop
> $TDEDIR/bin/kicker
> $TDEDIR/bin/twin
>
> # Wait if there's any crashhandler shown.
> #while $TDEDIR/bin/dcop | grep -q ^drkonqi- ; do
> while true
>   sleep 5
> done
>
> Has got me to a point where Trinity is running, with the following minor
> caveats:
>
> - The splash screen doesn't close automatically, but does go away when I
> click on it.
> - Nothing in the system tray starts, I'm guessing there's another
> scripts I need to call manually. Individually loading the relevant
> programmes works just fine. There's only 2 I care about, so not that big
> a deal.
>
> So at least I'm back on Trinity. Phew and thank you!
>
> In the interests of experimentation, I've now tried starting ksmserver
> manually after starting Trinity. drkonqi appears as before. The general
> tab is selected by default, if I don't click on anything, the window
> stays open indefinitely, but doesn't tell me much. If I click the
> backtrace tab, then the backtrace starts to load, but the window closes
> the instant that something useful starts to appear. I've tried clicking
> the report crash button, I get the wait icon on the mouse for a moment,
> after which the window closes with no further messages.
>
> I've also tried running ksmserver using gdb with all the recommended
> debuginfo stuff installed and got the following:
>
> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
> TQString::TQString (this=0x7fffffffc8b8, s=...) at tools/qstring.cpp:1516
> 1516        d(s.d)
>
> Which is at least giving me a line number now. After installing the full
> debuginfo, I also tried running ksmserver normally again, drkonqi pops
> up and upon clicking on the backtrace tab, the trace starts to populate,
> this time the window didn't close immediately, it seems that drkonqui
> closes the instant the backtrace is complete, unfortunately trying to
> copy and paste the backtrace out while it was running in order to grab
> some of it proved to be almost impossible, the selection keeps
> cancelling itself before I can get it into the clipboard, the following
> is all I could get from a much longer trace:
>
> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
> Using host libthread_db library "/lib64/libthread_db.so.1".
> 0x00007fd6177fd7f0 in __nanosleep_nocancel () at
> ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:84
> 84	T_PSEUDO (SYSCALL_SYMBOL, SYSCALL_NAME, SYSCALL_NARGS)
>
> ==== (gdb) bt ====
> #0  0x00007fd6177fd7f0 in __nanosleep_nocancel () at
> ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:84
> #1  0x00007fd6177fd6ac in __sleep (seconds=0, seconds@entry=1) at
> ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/sleep.c:138
> #2  0x00007fd6157cef5a in TDECrash::startDrKonqi
> (argv=argv@entry=0x7ffe672c4eb0, argc=argc@entry=17) at
> /usr/src/debug/trinity-tdelibs-14.0.4/tdecore/kcrash.cpp:312
> #3  0x00007fd6157cf3a9 in TDECrash::defaultCrashHandler (sig=<optimized
> out>) at /usr/src/debug/trinity-tdelibs-14.0.4/tdecore/kcrash.cpp:229
> #4  <signal handler called>
> #5  TQString::TQString (this=0x7ffe672c5558, s=...) at
> tools/qstring.cpp:1516
> #6  0x00007fd61589c7bf in operator+ (s2=..., s1=...) at
> /usr/include/tqt3/ntqstring.h:1016
> #7  TDEGenericDevice::uniqueID (this=this@entry=0x0) at
> /usr/src/debug/trinity-tdelibs-14.0.4/tdecore/tdehw/tdegenericdevice.cpp:10
>7 #8  0x00007fd61587db2f in TDEHardwareDevices::processModifiedCPUs
> (this=this@entry=0x1d35890) at
> /usr/src/debug/trinity-tdelibs-14.0.4/tdecore/tdehw/tdehardwaredevices.cpp:
>863 #9  0x00007fd615889c12 in TDEHardwareDevices::addCoreSystemDevices
> (this=this@entry=0x1d35890) at
> /usr/src/debug/trinity-tdelibs-14.0.4/tdecore/tdehw/tdehardwaredevices.cpp:
>3601 #10 0x00007fd61589077a in TDEHardwareDevices::queryHardwareInformation
> (this=this@entry=0x1d35890) at
> /usr/src/debug/trinity-tdelibs-14.0.4/tdecore/tdehw/tdehardwaredevices.cpp:
>3457 #11 0x00007fd615890e3e in TDEHardwareDevices::TDEHardwareDevices
> (this=0x1d35890) at
> /usr/src/debug/trinity-tdelibs-14.0.4/tdecore/tdehw/tdehardwaredevices.cpp:
>217 #12 0x00007fd6157e137e in TDEInstance::hardwareDevices
> (this=0x7ffe672c65b8) at
> /usr/src/debug/trinity-tdelibs-14.0.4/tdecore/kinstance.cpp:290
> #13 0x00007fd6157da0ff in TDEGlobal::hardwareDevices () at
> /usr/src/debug/trinity-tdelibs-14.0.4/tdecore/tdeglobal.cpp:91
>
>
> This appears to be coming from gdb as well, but I can't fathom out the
> magic incantation to get gdb to give this full output when run directly.
> When running with gdb at the command prompt I do get this cryptic comment:
>
> TQt: gdb: -nograb added to command-line options.
>          Use the -dograb option to enforce grabbing.
>
> However, the "-dograb" option isn't recognised by either gdb or
> ksmserver, so quite how I'm supposed to use it is a mystery to me.
>
> I'm thinking this now at the point where I ought to be putting this into
> bugzilla unless their are any further thoughts here.
>
> Thanks again, Tim W

yea, all that stuff are a bit over my head...

ksmserver is the session manager. With out it, you can't restore automatically  
previous sessions, or save a session manually, no autostart and starts some 
other stuff. More or less. Other things?

The easiest, would be to have starttde point at a script in your home that you 
can easily edit. It's possible that some stuff are missing, like some deamon. 
You'll have to add those too.

you can deactivate the splash screen, or do something like this?
sleep 3
killall ksplash

It's not ideal, but it's still very usable....