On Sunday 24 Sep 2017 20:17:51 Greg Madden wrote: > Sunday 24 September 2017 07:55:26 pm D. R. Evans wrote: > > Greg Madden wrote on 09/24/2017 07:42 PM: > > > On Sunday 24 September 2017 05:20:54 pm D. R. Evans wrote: > > >> So: > > >> > > >> 1. Looking at the packages that will be removed, will I still be able > > >> to > > >> run virtualbox if virtualbox-dkms is removed? [I think that the answer > > >> is yes, but I would like some assurance from someone who is more > > >> certain > > >> than am I.] > > >> > > >> 2. And then what about desktop-base? The version that is currently > > >> installed is from the official debian stable repository, so I don't > > >> think that I should be removing it. So what should I do about this > > >> conflict? > > >> > > >> Doc > > > > > > If you are using Debian, upgrading to Stretch, the following apply. > > > > > > Virtualbox is no longer in Stretch, if you use Vbox you issues are > > > larger.You > > > > Yes; I already added the oracle package yesterday, and it appears to be > > working fine. > > > > I *think* that virtualbox-dkms is used only when vb is being installed, so > > it should be safe to remove it; but I'm not absolutely certain. > > > > > desktop-base-trinity replaces the Debian desktop-base > > > > OK; so I should let aptitude do what it wants to do, which is to remove > > the > > debian desktop-base, right? > > > > One more question as a follow-on to this: when TDE is installed, is it > > still possible to run KDE despite the fact that the debian desktiop-base > > is > > no longer in place? (Just in case some program doesn't work on TDE and I > > have to go back to KDE temporarily.) > > > > Doc > > Only one Desktop base can be installed at a time. > > FYI, I run lots of different apps on my TDE, all work. > > greg > When I installed Trinity over Debian 8.7 starting on Friday 12 May this year, I couldn't get apt or aptitude to recognize the TDE R14.0.4 repositories as on https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall. So I did the installation manually with dpkg, using the repository web addresses for Jessie given on the page. I first attempted to install the tdebase-trinity meta-package, then manually located and installed all the packages dpkg required me to install before it would set up tdebase-trinity. I don't recall being asked to uninstall any Debian package, and indeed, I would have been extremely worried if I had been asked to do so. As I installed the packages, I moved them to a DebianInstalled/ directory, so I can see what I actually installed by looking in there. Doing ls on that directory, it seems I have not installed any desktop-base-"anything", so I must still be using the Debian desktop-base, which would presumably have been installed when I did a fresh install of Debian 8.7 in March this year. I am very happy with my TDE installation, so my advice to Doc would be to do the same as me, and just install tdebase-trinity and its dependencies. After I had installed Trinity, I was still able to use KDE4 rather than Trinity by selecting KDE4 in the KDM menu, but I very quickly decided that I preferred Trinity, and I have never been back to KDE4 since perhaps a week after I installed Trinity. I installed TDM a few days after I installed Trinity, and use the TDM login now. I can run the best KDE4 apps, such as Konqueror-KDE4, in Trinity, and thus get the best of both worlds, by putting the appropriate path for the KDE4 version in the Command field for a new menu item in Menu Editor. To run Konqueror-KDE4 in Trinity, I put the command /usr/bin/konqueror in the Command field. Chris