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Month: February 2018

Re: [trinity-users] tips on getting TDE to run smoothly

From: William Morder <doctor_contendo@...>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 14:15:26 -0800

On Monday 19 February 2018 13:49:16 Felix Miata wrote:
> William Morder composed on 2018-02-19 12:53 (UTC-0800):
> > Felix Miata wrote:
> >> William Morder composed on 2018-02-19 10:53 (UTC-0800):
> >> > Now that somebody gave me an old laptop (Sony Vaio), I can try to
> >> > create a system that runs only TDE from the start. But then you must
> >> > start out running everything from a shell, am I right? because you
> >> > don't yet have TDE installed?
> >>
> >> How hard is it to run one little script? e.g. Fedora:
> >>
> >> #!/bin/sh
> >> dnf install
> >>$(rpm
> >> -E %fedora).noarch.rpm
> >>
> >>-$( rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm rpm -Uvh
> >>
> >>/RP MS/noarch/trinity-repo-14.0.4-1.fc27.noarch.rpm dnf install
> >> trinity-tdebase trinity-kcalc trinity-kmix trinity-ksnapshot trinity-tdm
> >> systemctl enable tdm.service
> >> reboot
> >
> > Not hard at all, if one knows the script. But I don't run Redhat, so I
> > would have to adapt it to Debian.
> I only bother with the script with Fedora because its dependence on
> rpmfusion is much too complicated to remember. With any other distro,
> adding TDE from the shell is just plain simple, essentially following the
> instrucions on
> 1:add the two repo lines to /etc/apt/sources.list with mc's internal editor
> 2:import the gpg key
> 3:apt update
> 4:apt install either tde-trinity to get everything, or a desired subset,
> such as the five packages you see in my fedora script above.
> 5:reboot

Yes, I am familiar with this page. I have it bookmarked, added all the lines 
to my sources.list (and add new lines as TDE gets updated). I just comment 
out the lines I don't use, then delete them as I progress through upgrades. 
The commands for  apt-get: that is all I use for downloading and installing 
pkgs. I don't use synaptic or any of those tools. Otherwise, I use dpkg, if I 
have saved pkgs; or when my network is down (which happens more often than 
seems normal where I live). 
> > It seems to me that there are many more people out there who would like
> > to run a Linux system with TDE, but they cannot find this sort of
> > information. This is why I've started this thread. Maybe we can create
> > some pages somewhere and post this kind of information.
> For me, the wiki page above is quite sufficient, once the target distro
> installation has been completed. The harder part is finding that page in
> the first place. From
> it's not
> obvious to me that
> 	TDE
> 	Documentation
> following
> 	Main page
> and
> 	Recent changes
> is how to eventually find it. The left column on that page needs to be
> wider so that the link is not split over two lines when its font is forced
> to a legible size.

Yes, the information pages are not easily accessible. Only after you have 
thoroughly explored the Trinity site do you know where to find things; but 
that's only because I've bookmarked all the important pages. For somebody who 
is just starting out, it is like searching in the wilderness, equipped with 
nothing - not compass, map, flashlight, nor signposts. That's one of those 
items that I would like to see improved; because, as I've already said, more 
users for TDE would be of some benefit to all of us ... that is, if we want 
to keep using TDE into the indefinite future. 

> Probably could stand to
> include a writeup or a link to another page that outlines how to do a
> minimal Debian installation in preparation to add and run only TDE, unless
> there is one somewhere already that I just haven't seen.
> FWIW, this is how I create a "new" Debian installation:
> title Install Debian via HTTP
>     kernel (hd0,0)/debian/linux showopts vga=791 ---
> netcfg/get_hostname=myhost netcfg/disable_dhcp=true tasks=standard
> base-installer/install-recommends=false splash=0
>     initrd (hd0,0)/debian/initrd.gz
> What that means is I have multiboot machines with Grub at the ready to load
> any stanza I create. I prep the target / partition for a new installation,
> save the appropriate installation kernel and initrd from a mirror, then let
> Grub start the installation process. With Stretch I doubt it takes as much
> as 30 minutes to be ready to initiate the TDE installation process.

This is a net install? I like that. Thanks for your information.