These are the fish I can think of... What does Trinity Control Center say? Can you change the icon theme there? Thierry Ah...you've opened up a symptom.....good...good... Found none of the tde installed icons sets would let me change an icon on the desktop using kdesktop/properties/select-icon But two that had been externally installed worked fine...gnome and adwait Using Trinity Control Center as root it allowed me to remove all other themes except I wanted to try and rescue crystalSVG so I left it and exhaustively compared and investigated...but no obvious issues with permissions or missing pieces. I just wish someone with in-depth knowledge of this issue could tell me where the path or symlink is that tells Select - Icon Kdesktop where to look for those crystalSVG icons... I'm pretty sure if I installed an external downloaded theme say the new crystalSVG it would work...but hate to do that... I even reinstalled tdebase-data-trinity (crystalSVG actual icons) tdeartwork (all the others except mono) tde-icons-mono-trinity (monochrome) And it puts them all back but the system still cannot find them... When you go to desktop and have the system set for any of the tde installed themes now and you pick out an icon on the desktop you select properties and then click on that icon boom lala land....cursor forever...even let it run overnight... but if you switch to and externally installed theme it goes right to the different locations...and shows those icons for you to visually select and change as you wish In all folders /actions /animations /apps /categories /devices /emblems etc....etc....etc... Danny