On Saturday 17 March 2018 21:25:04 Felix Miata wrote:
> William Morder composed on 2018-03-17 20:58 (UTC-0700):
> > It's a matter of what one is familiar with; your granddaddy is not mine.
>
> Not my granddaddy. Granddaddy of all live media Linux distros, toolset
> that's older than Ubuntu. You don't need to download or boot it to see
> what's in it. Just look at the two applist links I posted.

I did give the list a look, and it is impressive; however, it isn't GNU/Linux 
(or at least, the gnu.org site doesn't approve of Knoppix). 

http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html

There is a distro based on Knoppix that is GNU/Linux: "Musix, a GNU+Linux 
distribution based on Knoppix, with special emphasis on audio production"; 
but I have other needs. I also don't necessary need a live disc, except for 
special tasks like this. I won't swear off comparing different distros, but I 
am getting more specific about my criteria and needs. 

Anyway, I don't run any of the 'buntus (although I used to do so). I didn't 
like where Canonical was going, and wanted to get into Debian (which is also 
older than Ubuntu). Now, however, I don't like this systemd thing, so I am 
preparing to move on to Devuan, which sticks to the principles on which 
Debian was founded. 

It is important to me to wean myself from non-free, proprietary software, and 
any software that I cannot use and modify however I wish. 

I don't think of myself as a GNU/Linux purist, nor an evangelist or 
proselytiser for free/libre. And it might be that I will, on occasion, use 
packages that are non-free; but I do like to feel that I own my own computer, 
that I am in control of what goes on under the hood, and that I can hack my 
own system to make it do what I want. 

Ergo, Knoppix doesn't appear to suit me, though I am glad to hear about its 
virtues, or to be corrected if you feel that I am wrong about it not being 
GNU/Linux. And I don't regard others as less enlightened for using another 
OS. (I even have good friends who run the rotten Apple and even Windoze; good 
folks who don't have the patience for Linux anything, but who also have to 
work and pay the bills, or whose jobs require them to run proprietary 
systems.) Other people have needs that are different from mine. 

Bill