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Re: [trinity-users] quick & dirty - installation & backup

From: William Morder <doctor_contendo@...>
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 05:24:01 -0700

On Sunday 18 March 2018 05:02:19 E. Liddell wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 17:13:52 -0700
> William Morder <doctor_contendo@...> wrote:
> > I would be curious to know what are other people's methods. I've heard
> > about some net installations already.
> Well, my response was shock that anyone would actually have to do that much
> work to reinstall the software on an existing system!  I'd just issue
> something like "emerge --emptytree --keep-going world", go to bed, and
> expect 98% of everything to be resolved when I got back up in the morning. 
> A Gentoo machine is always easier to recover than to restart from scratch
> (and yes, it's possible to switch out major parts of the infrastructure,
> like openrc <=> systemd and udev <=> eudev, without hosing everything or
> even having to reinstall any package that doesn't depend directly on the
> changed one).
> I kept my old system installation for twelve years (2005-2017), despite a
> major hardware refresh about midway through that period, and *never* had to
> start over from scratch.  And the only reason I didn't just image the old
> root partition onto a new drive when I set up my current machine over
> Christmas was that I figured it was time to get rid of all the leftover
> cruft from more than a decade of rolling updates.
> E. Liddell
Ah, but you are an actual geek, and you like this stuff. And I did say that my 
method was dirty. The only reason I use computers at all is because I must; I 
build my own computers out of parts because I can't afford to buy anything; 
and I try to stick with GNU/Linux so that I can be sure that I really own my 
own computers. 

I've only been running Linux since about 2006, and mostly Kubuntu. Only in 
April of 2017 did I attempt Debian. Once I get a system more or less stable, 
I almost never need to do a full reinstallation. But then, I have pretty much 
taught myself, with the help of some Linux books, and researching the forums. 
And I only know one person in the real world (not online) who can actually 
offer guidance. Otherwise, most people think I am a computer freak, which I 
am not. 

If I ruled the world, we would all go back to horses and carts, or at least 
bicycles. I still say that this computer nonsense is just a passing fad, and 
sooner or later people will wake up. 

In the meanwhile, this is what I have to do to keep my computer running. I 
like what you say, and am always willing to bow before superior knowledge. If 
I could learn how to use your method on a Debian system, that would be great. 

If you can point me in the right direction, I am all ears. 


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