On Wednesday 13 June 2018 01:52:16 Mike Bird wrote:
> On Wed June 13 2018 01:41:34 William Morder wrote:
> > But when I look at network configuration in other places (for instance,
> > in Trinity Control Center), no network connections at all are supposed to
> > be enabled.
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> I would ask you please to make your posts here as precise as possible,
> such that other people have enough information to perform the same steps
> as you have performed and to compare their results with yours.
>
> Are you saying that Trinity Control Center / Peripherals / Information /
> / Network Interfaces shows no interfaces, not even lo?
>
> What please is your "uptime", "cat /proc/version", "lsof /sbin/udevd",
> and "ps ax | grep dbus"?
>
> --Mike
>

Sorry to take so long to respond. I tried to take a screenshot to show you 
what I meant, then my system crashed and I could not boot up again. When I 
tried to reinstall my system, I kept having problems, so I finally migrated 
over to Devuan Jessie/Beowulf (I believe it's called). Now my system is back 
to normal again, only better (I hope). 

Brief answer: You are correct, when I looked in 
Trinity Control Center / Peripherals / Information / Network Interfaces
I saw nothing at all there, not even lo. The same is true when I looked in 
Trinity Control Center / Internet & Network / Network Settings
It was the same, no matter if I was user or root. 

I think the problem was just that I was tired of installing and reinstalling, 
and futzing round with trying to get my system working, when I already had 
a "finely tuned system" (to quote somebody else here); so maybe I skipped 
some steps in my haste. When I sent that last post to the mailing list, my 
system was unstable, and about to crash. I was only upgrading to Debian 
Jessie then on to Devuan Ascii, because I read that security.debian.org 
servers will no longer support Jessie. 

Now that I am running Devuan Jessie/Beowulf (?), I don't know if that is still 
true (that as of today, 17th of June, security patches for Jessie will not be 
supported). At least Devuan seems to run smoother than Debian. I believe that 
hereafter I will confine my learning experiments to my laptop, and save my 
desktop for actual work. 

Bill