On 06/20/2018 12:27 PM, Mike Bird wrote:
> On Wed June 20 2018 12:04:46 Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>> On 06/20/2018 11:42 AM, Mike Bird wrote:
>>> Jessie is usable but LTS means Long Term Support means less security
>>> support.
>>>
>>> That said, if Ascii does not work for you then I would recommend Devuan
>>> Jessie at least in the short term.  You need to get a solid base that
>>> works for you and then upgrade by simple stages.
>>
>> Do you mean like if I do a Jessie base install and then upgrade to ASCII
>> and then install my desktop or something else?  Just so you know Trinity
>> for Jessie will not install on ASCII/Stretch, I wish it would.
> 
> Trinity Stable for Jessie works well with Jessie.


To bad it don't work with ASCII.

> Trinity PSB for Ascii works well with Ascii.
> 
> Please make your posts as precise as possible.  I still don't know what you
> mean when you say you migrated to the "Devuan Jessie-Beowulf merged version".


Bill said that not me.

>>> Can you give me a Debian bug number for the HDMI problem for reference?
>>
>> In more than 20 years I've never filed a bug report, but there have been
>> Dev's who have shown a interest and have been able to reproduce the
>> problems I have found and have filed bug reports, so I don't know if
>> there has been a bug report filed or not.
> 
> Please search Debian bug reports for your Debian HDMI bug.  If there's no
> report on your problem please file one.


Why should I start now.

> If there's a TDE bug please do
> the same with TDE bug reports ... but thus far I don't see any TDE aspect
> to this and I don't understand why you're posting complaints to a TDE list
> instead of filing bugs to the Debian bug database.

I'm not using Debian, I'm using Devuan.  Also I was talking to Bill and 
then you jumped in, so I explained the problem to you and why I don't 
recommend Bill upgrading from Jessie.  I'm pretty sure what's going on 
is a security problem and part of that systemd crap that has not been 
rooted out yet.  Besides I like using Jessie and hate to upgrade, but I 
will test most anything and give a report *if I feel like it*.  Also I'm 
not much of a joiner. :)

I'm sure the problem will be fixed in time it just takes a couple of 
years.  In the meantime Dev's will be using Jessie and will not notice 
the problem.  If you're in Yosemite I worked there for about 10 
yrs(early 80's to the early 90's), just thought I'd let you know.

Cheers,
-- 
Jimmy Johnson

Devuan Jessie - TDE Trinity R14.0.4 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda2
Registered Linux User #380263