On Thursday 21 June 2018 18:23:55 Kate Draven wrote:
> > On Thursday 21 June 2018 12:20:21 Sl�vek Banko wrote:
> > > On Thursday 21 of June 2018 11:35:47 William Morder wrote:
> > > > On Wed June 20 2018 07:23:07 William Morder wrote:
> > > > > I recently migrated from Debian Jessie to the Devuan Jessie
> > > > > merged version. My problem is, now I cannot turn off my network,
> > > > > nor control the connection at all. I was using the
> > > > > network-manager-tde package, which has always worked just fine for
> > > > > me. I've tried all the other network managers, and don't like how
> > > > > they behave. In particular, I want to set my network so that it
> > > > > never connects automatically, and will only connect manually.
> > > >
> > > > Devuan Jessie works well but is based on Debian Jessie which is
> > > > moving into LTS.
> > > >
> > > > Devuan Ascii works well and is based on Debian Stretch and is well
> > > > supported.
> > > >
> > > > Devuan Beowulf is in development based on Debian Buster in
> > > > development.
[*snip]
> > > > In any case, I believe I have solved my network issues (or at least
> > > > found a workaround). There are some deeper issues that I will bring
> > > > up in another thread.
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > >

Okay, just because I am an insufferable pedant, I would like to point out that 
if we diverge from the question asked - even if we are vaguely talking about 
computers - then this is still technically "off-topic"! 

But to return to our muttons! (I beg my Francophone and Francophile readers to 
forgive me; I know this is a mistranslation of the original.) 

So here's the problem: I got my network working reasonably well, except for 
one glitch, that it automatically connects at startup. I've tried wicd and 
tdenetworkmanager, as well as the knetworkmanager. Also I've dabbled with 
pretty much every other network management tool, and nothing changes. I set 
the manager so that it does not connect automatically (which worked fine for 
me in Debian Jessie), but now it keeps resetting the configuration, and 
automatically connects on startup. 

After I am up and running, I am able to connect and disconnect with few 
problems, but this is really annoying. 

Is it better to change the configuration file in one of these locations? 
/etc/network/interfaces
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
I didn't have a problem like this before; never in Kubuntu, nor in Debian 
Jessie; this is new only since I started running Devuan. 

Aside from a few glitches, by the way, Devuan does run better than Debian. In 
particular, Debian with systemd used to hang when I tried to reboot, but this 
doesn't happen in Devuan. 

I appreciate any help, suggestions or observations. 

Bill