On Saturday 23 June 2018 15:46:39 E. Liddell wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 16:50:26 -0700
>
> William Morder <doctor_contendo@...> wrote:
> > On Friday 22 June 2018 14:30:09 E. Liddell wrote:
> > > On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 09:17:34 -0700
> > >
> > > William Morder <doctor_contendo@...> wrote:
> > > > TDE
> > > > Trinity Control Center/Colors
> > > > x Apply colors to non-TDE applications
> > > >
> > > > KDE4
> > > > System Settings/Application Appearance/Colors/Options
> > > > x Apply colors to non-KDE4 applications
> > > >
> > > > I don't so much care if they use the KDE4 settings or the TDE color
> > > > settings, just so long as it's not white. This isn't just that I hate
> > > > that my pretty desktop is spoiled; I started using these settings
> > > > because a white screen triggers a migraine - especially when I am
> > > > working late at night in a dark room. I impose dark screen settings
> > > > on my default browsers and other applications, too, for this reason.
> > > > Also, there is a practical reason: whenever I see a white screen,
> > > > this usually reminds me that I have opened that application as root,
> > > > so that I am sure to be careful I don't really mess up or delete
> > > > stuff.
> > >
> > > Yeah, sounds about right--I've been setting up my desktops with white
> > > text on black/blue for more than twenty years for similar reasons.
> > >
> > > Try unchecking those two boxes you mention first.  Then create a file
> > > .gtkrc-2.0 in your user's home directory and put the following in it:
> >
> > I already did that. I checked and unchecked them numerous times; checked
> > one but not the other, restarted after changing them, etc.; but no
> > changes.
>
> What those checkboxes do (or at least, what the TDE one used to do) is
> write an additional configuration for GTK widgets that tries to give them
> similar settings to your QT widgets.  Unchecking them should cause the
> system to revert to the normal GTK theming system, which can then be messed
> with to produce more reliable results.
>
> > > gtk-color-scheme = "bg_color: #000044\nfg_color: #fff\nbase_color:
> > > #000\ntext_color: #fff\nselected_bg_color: #0ff\nselected_fg_color:
> > > #000\ntooltip_bg_color: #0ff\ntooltip_fg_color: #000"
> > >
> > > If that causes an abrupt colour change in your browser chrome, it
> > > should be easy enough to work it into a more standard colour scheme by
> > > adjusting the hex.  If not, we may have a little more work to do (my
> > > file is actually a lot more extensive and defines a variation on the
> > > standard Industrial style, because that was the easiest way to get
> > > usable scrollbars with such dark colours).
> > >
> > > Styling GTK3 is not that easy, unfortunately--it took me just under 400
> > > lines of CSS to get something I could live with.  I can hand my file
> > > over to you to play with if it turns out you need it (the colour
> > > information is exposed at the top, so fairly easy to change).
> >
> > Yes, please. From what you have given me here, it looks like something I
> > could use. I could just change it to suit my own needs. And 400 lines
> > doesn't scare me.
>
> Okay, I've attached both my GTK2 and GTK3 style files.  I also tossed in a
> screenshot showing what Seamonkey looks like when themed with this mess
> (the screwed-up tab bar is due to a malfunctioning browser extension,
> though). I guarantee it is not white. ;)
>
> .gtkrc-2.0 is a GTK2 style.  Pale Moon (as of 27.9.3) and SeaMonkey (as of
> 2.49.7.0) still use GTK2.  Place this file in your user's home directory. 
> Unfortunately, it is not neat or tidy and has colour definitions scattered
> all over the file.  It also needs the Industrial GTK2 "engine" in order to
> function properly.  For me, Industrial is located in the package
> x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.20.2.  I don't know where it may be for your
> distro.
>
> gtk.css is a GTK3 style, and you would place it in .config/gtk-3.0/ .  It's
> somewhat more neatly written, with all the colour definitions at the top. 
> The style is mildly skeuomorphic if functioning properly (slightly raised
> borders around buttons, etc.) I have a separate settings.ini file in that
> directory, but I don't think it's relevant.
>
> Oh, and if you have any other files of the form .gtkrc-2.0-x or similar in
> your home directory, rename them to get them out of the way.
>
> E. Liddell

Thanks, I do appreciate it. I would hate to do a reinstallation for only some 
silly glitches. And messing round with your config files will save me a lot 
of time. I appreciate your hard work, and sharing it. You will get your 
reward in heaven, if not on earth. 

;-) 

Bill