On Monday 02 July 2018 03:07:16 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 01 July 2018 21:48:27 William Morder wrote: > > On Sunday 01 July 2018 18:03:13 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Sunday 01 July 2018 20:47:58 William Morder wrote: > > > > On Sunday 01 July 2018 17:23:52 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > On Sunday 01 July 2018 19:58:34 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday 01 July 2018 19:16:01 dep wrote: > > > > > > > /home/dep/trinity/share/config/ etc.... > > > > > > > > > > > > I have that file, its owned by me:me and is rw only for me. > > > > > > And contains: > > > > > > DVI-I-1= > > > > > > DefaultProfile= > > > > > > EnableICC=false > > > > > > HDMI-1= > > > > > > VGA-1= > > > > > > > > > > > > No clue what could have sneezed and screwed it up, but there > > > > > > it is. > > > > > > > > > > > > No clue of the effect of setting some of those options might > > > > > > be. And no manpage. So your guess is likely better than mine. > > > > > > > > > > Oh, I just found one thing that has not been fixed, I have audio > > > > > during boot until tdm starts after I log in. After login, I > > > > > still have to do an "alsactl restoreRETURN" before I have any > > > > > sound. Can this be fixed? > > > > > > > > I use ALSA, and it starts when I boot up. > > > > > > > > Have you messed with this toy? > > > > sudo sysv-rc-conf > > > > > > That is not findable on this wheezy machine. > > > > You should be able to get it by installing through apt: > > > > sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf > > > > Then I will send you a screenshot of my own run levels, or somebody > > else can do so; or you can do some research on how to set the run > > levels in sysv-rc-conf. > > > > I seem to recall that you could make some of these changes through the > > Trinity Control Center, but sysv-rc-conf is much easier, so long as > > you are careful. A lot of things can slow down your machine, because > > they are configured to run at startup when you don't need them; while > > other things that you want, like your sound system, might be disabled. > > > > Bill > > It might be a good idea, and it may not. But the fact is that I have 5 > machines here still running wheezy and one jessie, which wheezy is now > officially EOL even for security stuff. Until the lcnc crew have made up > a jessie or stretch installer, So the likelyhood of my playing with this > is quite low. > > The jessie install is quite stable, but I have a rock64 running stretch > that while its 20x faster than a pi, has problems with the login screen > that in 6+ months, has not been fixed, so there is no way I could > honestly say stretch is stable. Reboots after an update are a try this > and see if it works, then try that, each one taking a full 10 second > powerdown to get it to even try to reboot. > Yup, I remember that hangup from running Debian with systemd. Once I changed to Devuan, it no longer hangs on reboot. However, changing over to Devuan is not necessarily smooth and easy - although some here would disagree. I think it all depends on what one already has installed. > Until you finally get the ducks in order and a successful login can be > done. That same rock64 runs jessie perfectly from power restoration to > the next power failure. That I'd call stable. > > > > > Be careful, if you haven't used that before; although I suspect > > > > that you know it. Don't make changes there unless you know what to > > > > do. > > > > > > > > Also, look in > > > > Trinity Control Center / Sound & Multimedia / Sound System > > > > Both parts, > > > > General / Hardware > > > > ought to be examined. > > > > On the whole, I agree with your approach, I think, which seems to be: take it slow, and don't mess with a working system. Even when my system is not running quite perfectly, it's still better than one that doesn't run at all, and time wasted with reinstallation. Right now I have a lot of little glitches that keep building up, but I have a feeling that most are somehow related, as I've never had them before; and all are new since installing Devuan. So I mostly just keep trying to trace the source (or sources) of these issues, waiting until the inevitable reinstallation ... which could be another month or two. Bill