On Monday 02 July 2018 14:21:18 William Morder wrote: > On Monday 02 July 2018 07:33:44 Gene Heskett wrote: > > [trimming just a bit ...] > > > > > It might be a good idea, and it may not. But the fact is that I > > > > have 5 machines here still running wheezy and one jessie, which > > > > wheezy is now officially EOL even for security stuff. Until the > > > > lcnc crew have made up a jessie or stretch installer, So the > > > > likelyhood of my playing with this is quite low. > > > > > > > > The jessie install is quite stable, but I have a rock64 running > > > > stretch that while its 20x faster than a pi, has problems with > > > > the login screen that in 6+ months, has not been fixed, so there > > > > is no way I could honestly say stretch is stable. Reboots after > > > > an update are a try this and see if it works, then try that, > > > > each one taking a full 10 second powerdown to get it to even try > > > > to reboot. > > > > > > Yup, I remember that hangup from running Debian with systemd. Once > > > I changed to Devuan, it no longer hangs on reboot. However, > > > changing over to Devuan is not necessarily smooth and easy - > > > although some here would disagree. I think it all depends on what > > > one already has installed. > > > > Don't forget that the rock64 is NOT an armhf like the pi's, its a > > full arm64. I don't think the compiler is quite ready for a full 64 > > bit 4 core arm. In any event, the login screen becomes locked if not > > logged in within 10 seconds of its appearance. If the screen locker > > and its pw requirement could be nuked, that would help since ones pw > > is no good with the screen locker, once it kicks in, its power > > button time to get back into it. I'd a lot druther it just turned > > the monitor off in 10 to 20 minutes of inactivity. Barring a prowler > > in the night, I am the only one that will ever make new fingerprints > > on any of these keyboards here. The paranoid security, as if all > > this was sitting on a kiosk in Grand Central Station is extremely > > anti-productive. In a single user environment, its very poor quality > > BS because it only grows resentment. > > You ought to be able to diable the screen locker. I never use them > except manually. Like you, I am the only one here, if one doesn't > count the occasional vermin in this building, so there is no reason > for ultra-security about physical access to my machine. When I leave, > I lock everything down manually. I have not been able to find that in the xfce menu's. If someone can tell me how, I'll be happy to do it. Or an automatic login as 1st user would also be a solution. As it is, if I want to do something, its almost guaranteed I'll have to ssh into it from this machine. Thank you. [...] > Well, I have discussed some of them, and got help, but the solutions > don't quite resolve my issues. And these glitches are annoying, but > don't interrupt my work. > > For example, I mentioned in an earlier thread that the GUI of some > programs suddenly gets "bleached" white, like the default KDE3 or > maybe Gnome setting? No matter what I've tried, they refuse to use my > system colors. Yet when I reinstall my system, generally everything > returns to normal. This seems to happen about every third time that I > reinstall, without apparent rhyme or reason. I install everything by > specific steps, so this should not change, if my system itself hasn't > changed. And sometimes, if I just reinstall yet again, immediately, > everything is back to normal. > That might be a memory problem indicator. Has memtest86 given it a clean report after several cycles? Thats also a symptom of wandering around poking at things as root. > The same with my mount points. I create special mount points for all > my extra hard drives (beyond sda partitions, that is). Some are > internal, and continue to work fine, but my external drives suddenly > cannot be mounted except as root, and remain accessible only within a > root environment (for example, if I open Konqueror as root). This > means that I cannot play media files from those partitions, for > example, though I can transfer them back and forth. I have gone into > fstab and mtab settings, examine ownership and permissions, etc., and > nothing changes. Only one drive, which is formatted as a Linux > filesystem, has become partially accessible, though I still must jump > through hoops to mount it. My other external hard drives remain > inaccessible except when I access them through a root environment; > that is, either a root shell, or by opening Konqueror as root. Yet > when I reinstall, most likely this problem will go away, as again, it > only happens maybe on every third installation (and never happened > when I ran Kubuntu Hardy 8.04). Mount, generally speaking is a restricted command, accessible only by root. > There are a few other annoyances, but as I say, I prefer to keep > working at the moment, rather than spend a day or two reinstalling > everything. > > However ... unless somebody has some really useful suggestions to make > about how to solve these problems, I am not asking for help. I am just > making observations about some of my minor annoyances. As I said, my > system is getting close to perfect, and then the Dragon Kings will > yield their Jewel of Enlightenment, the President will probably > arrange to pin a medal on my chest, probably with a staple gun. :( > or maybe there will be a Nobel > Prize for personal modification of a desktop environment? Hummm, you probably shouldn't let your imagination out to play w/o a chaperone. Gets one in trouble, BTDT myself. ;-) > Anyway, > almost perfect ... *SIGH* > > Bill > Lots of wistfull sighing going on here.> -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>