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Re: [trinity-users] stretch problems

From: Gene Heskett <gheskett@...>
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 17:54:54 -0400
On Tuesday 21 August 2018 16:55:31 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:

> Am Dienstag, 21. August 2018 schrieb Slávek Banko:
> > Dne út 21. srpna 2018 Nick Koretsky napsal(a):
> > > On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 09:08:55 -0400
> > >
> > > Gene Heskett <gheskett@...> wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 21 August 2018 08:21:12 Nick Koretsky wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 12:55:28 +0200
> > > > >
> > > > > "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office@...> wrote:
> > > > > > Am Dienstag, 21. August 2018 schrieb Nick Koretsky:
> > > > > > > On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 09:20:43 +0200
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office@...> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Its tears so far Nik. There are so many differences
> > > > > > > > > just in the ext4's used that one of them should be
> > > > > > > > > renamed, they will NOT cross mount, ext4 disk to ext4
> > > > > > > > > mount.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Gene!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When you cannot mount the ext4 partions from one
> > > > > > > > another, then there is something very wrong. ext4 can be
> > > > > > > > mounted as ext2 and that should alway work - at least,
> > > > > > > > if the drives and filesystems are ok.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No, you are wrong. There were options added to ext4 which
> > > > > > > made it incompatible with older kernels. And a few years
> > > > > > > ago they made this options default. Debian wheezy kernel
> > > > > > > (3.2) would not mount ext4 created in debian stretch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now that's a gotcha I did not know. How did it come that
> > > > > > this was thought of beeing a good idea?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nik
> > > > >
> > > > > Yep. Exactly my thought when i spent 3-hours with a server
> > > > > refusing to boot after migration to a new hdd (i used a
> > > > > stretch flash to copy). Who the fuck toughs it was a good
> > > > > idea?!! Why not call it ext5 or ext4a or whatever?!!
> > > >
> > > > +100
> > > >
> > > > Now the question of the day is how the hell do we fix it?
> > >
> > > If you need a shared partition between wheezy and stretch create
> > > it in wheezy.
> >
> > I recommend upgrading to wheezy-backports kernel.
> >
> > Cheers
>
> Maybe I missed the point somewhere, but I was under the impression
> that Gene wants to run linuxcnc on a production machine, and that
> needs a realtime kernel. To be more prcise, linuxcnc 2.7 needs a rtai
> patched kernel if you want decent latentcy, not the rtpreempt kernels
> from debian. I have now two mills running on devuan ascii, both with
> the old kernels from linuxcnc-wheezy 'cause of latency.
>
> Nik

Glad I have a rowing partner in this leaky rowboat, Nik.

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