On Friday 05 October 2018 00:19:47 Felmon Davis wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2018, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
> > On 2018-10-01 14:21:14 Kate Draven wrote:
> >
> > [ ... deleted ... ]
> >
> >> As for drivers,what do you mean? I've never had to install drivers. I
> >> HAVE had to install them in Apple and MS. That's a nightmare. Perhaps
> >> I'm mistunderstood (which is likely).
> >
> > 	The only ones I know of are the video drivers (which are optional).
> >
> > Leslie
>
> not sure what counts as a 'driver' but I have had to install some
> package for Brother printers and 'firmware' for wifi (Intel).
>
> if this is just a matter of semantics then let's not fuss.
>
> the fact remains that for some it's not all "out of the box" or
> whatever to call it.
>
> f.

Maybe what was meant was dependencies rather than drivers? Brother printers, 
and other such items, are special cases, because one doesn't get the deb 
packages (or rpm, yum, etc., according to the distro) from the standard 
repositories, but must download them from the manufacturer's website. (I, 
too, wrestle with a Brother printer.) There, perhaps, one means to say 
drivers, even if they are deb packages. 

When I read the word *driver*, however, I immediately thought that it sounded 
more like a Windoze or rotten Apple user, who had recently switched to Linux, 
and was unfamiliar with the repositories, or how to use apt. If we knew more, 
we might be able to make suggestions, or offer other help. 

For a new user, the first few weeks of learning to run Linux is sort of like 
moving to a different planet, because everything seems totally different. It 
is, however, a very sane planet. 

Bill